The Resurrection of Hillary

by Scott Kirwin on March 5, 2008

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I voted for Bill Clinton twice and I don’t regret it. One of the reasons why I like Clinton is his tenacity; the guy was willing to do anything to win. It’s apparent his wife has that virtue, much to the dismay of the Obama cult. Taking Texas and Ohio yesterday after a string of defeats using some of the best political theater in generations (the 3am phone call ad) all the while battling the surrender wing of her own party… well, that’s just Clintonesque.

Congratulations to her and her supporters for not giving up and for making this primary season one that I soon won’t forget.

{ 16 comments }

1 CosmicConservative March 5, 2008 at 9:58 am

I suppose if you think “doing anything to win” is a virtue, that would explain why you support the Clintons in the first place. There are many of us who think “doing anything to win” is hardly a virtue. In fact Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of exactly that (in spite of all the overwhelming evidence that BOTH sides play hardball), and they certainly do not think that it is a virtue.

Here’s the deal Scott, Hillary is now bloodying Obama up while McCain is out there solidifying the Republican base. If Hillary and Obama continue to burrow deeper and deeper into the slime of “do anything to win” politics that you seem to find so uplifting, then by the time the Convention comes around the Democrat party is going to be dangerously split. If Hillary then somehow manages to win the nomination through procedural moves and super delegate voting, you are going to see a massive backlash from Obama’s most hardcore voters, many of whom will be so embittered by what they view as his nomination being stolen from him, that they will not vote in the election. On the other hand, if Obama still manages to win the election, all the mud that Hillary has thrown at him about being “not ready to lead” will simply be a magnet for the Republican attacks which will be far more devastating than Hillary’s as bad as Hillary’s are.

There is a reason that the Democrat party leadership is holding its collective head in its hands this morning and moaning “what do we do now?” And there’s a reason Limbaugh and other conservative talk show hosts tried to energize Republicans in Texas and Ohio to vote for Hillary, to prolong just this bloody “do anything to win” process.

As a conservative I have to say that I am greatly enjoying watching Democrats pound each other with the same tactics they’ve used against Republicans for years. I hope it goes on and both Obama and Hillary earn your abiding respect for their “the end justifies the means” approach to life.

Because the more they do that, the higher McCain’s chances of kicking their butts in November become.

CosmicConservative’s last blog post..Hillary not quite dead yet?

2 Snippet March 5, 2008 at 10:33 am

I can almost admire the sheer, unadulterated, chutzpah of Hillary Clinton running an ad that Lee Atwater would have rejected as excessively and transparently fear-mongerish.

If she is the nominee, I will almost admire the sheer, unadulterated hypocricy of accusing the Republicans of appealing to fear, while she appeals to Hope (Oh yes, you bet your ass she’ll be appealing to Hope, and it will be her idea too. You bet it will).

Almost.

3 Scott Kirwin March 5, 2008 at 10:43 am

Cosmic Conservative

I suppose if you think “doing anything to win” is a virtue, that would explain why you support the Clintons in the first place.

I do think it’s a virtue. Politics is a blood sport; it’s streetfighting with the only rule being that all is fair unless the voter deems otherwise. It’s why GWB beat McCain in South Carolina in 2000 and became president, even though I personally hold that bit of slander against the President.

But just because I voted for Bill twice in the 90′s and respect HRC for reviving her campaign, don’t think that I support HRC. I’m 100% behind John McCain and a registered Republican who votes the party slate.

Scott Kirwin’s last blog post..Countering the Worshippers of Death

4 CosmicConservative March 5, 2008 at 10:50 am

Scott: You can’t have it both ways. You can’t admire Hillary for “doing what it takes to win” and then “hold that bit of slander against the President” when he did no worse than Hillary’s tactics against Obamsa.

Unless, of course, you are judging each based on your ideology, not on their actions.

Which is exactly what I think you are doing.

CosmicConservative’s last blog post..Hillary not quite dead yet?

5 Hank Barnes March 5, 2008 at 10:55 am

As the unending battle between Obama & Clinton continues, I am reminded of the quip by Henry Kissinger about the Iran-Iraq War in the 80s’ — “Too bad they both can’t lose!”

Keep fighting, I say! It’ll make the Democratic Convention the highest rated ever.

HB

6 Hank Barnes March 5, 2008 at 11:13 am

Oh, I forgot to add:

It’d be nice if Obama and Clinton could air out a significant policy difference they have. All this Rezko, Canada, Muslim, Hussein stuff, Iconsider to be peripheral.

We’ve strayed too far into the horse-race aspects of the race, rather than substance, myself included.

HankB

7 Scott Kirwin March 5, 2008 at 11:31 am

CC

Unless, of course, you are judging each based on your ideology, not on their actions

You’re probably right; I shouldn’t hold it against the Pres – and it didn’t stop me from voting for him in ’04. It’s more of an emotional thing. I like John McCain, and always have.

As for my ideology, if you know what it is let me know. To me the war in Iraq and the overall GWOT trump everything else in this election – and that includes McCain-Feingold and McCain’s other liberal transgressions which seem to get some of my fellow Republican’s panties in a bunch.

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8 Dean Esmay March 5, 2008 at 11:38 am

I honestly don’t see what Senator Clinton’s done that’s so evil and ruthless. The telephone ad was quite good and quite reasonable, for example. Staying in to win in the face of adversity is admirable.

Some people just won’t see the Clintons as anything but evil. I guess we’ll just have a mirror image of the Bush II Presidency if she’s elected, with partisans spewing spittle for 4-8 years.

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9 Jack Snyder March 5, 2008 at 11:55 am

Dean, you’re absolutely right. If Hillary gets elected we’ll see a lot of people suffering from Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

10 Elisha Feger March 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm

I’m already hearing people around campus here starting McCain Derangement Syndrome, and he’s not even President yet.

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11 DanielH March 5, 2008 at 12:13 pm

BDS, CDS, MDS… Maybe I just have DSDSDS: but still, I think that DSDS is becoming a serious problem, and DW is not immune. You all have a problem with that? Maybe you have DSDSDSDS!

12 Jack Snyder March 5, 2008 at 12:14 pm

No matter what happens, it’s going to get ugly.

13 Snippet March 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm

>> Dean, you’re absolutely right. If Hillary gets elected we’ll see a lot of people suffering from Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

This is utterly ridiculous. She is not elected, and I’m having absolutely no trouble suffering from Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

14 Elisha Feger March 5, 2008 at 12:49 pm

lol I propose we roll all of these Derangement Syndromes into a single complex of disorders. The BSDS.

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15 Snippet March 5, 2008 at 2:12 pm

BSDS

I think I have that too.

I need help, or maybe a pill or something. Or maybe there’s a government program?

?

16 Acksiom March 6, 2008 at 9:42 am

“I honestly don’t see what Senator Clinton’s done that’s so evil and ruthless.”

Fine; how about what she’s said she’d like to do?

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