I have no doubt that mistakes have been made in figuring all this out, especially since the global weather system is such a phenomenally complicated beast, but it’s pretty clear that significant global climate changes are occurring, and I find it hard to believe that the huge sums of CO2 we’re pumping into the atmosphere aren’t playing a part in that. It would just be too coincidental otherwise.

(Also note that the article on the sea temperate changes contains a variety of possible explanations, most of which still allow for global warming. Be careful not to do exactly what you’re accusing others of doing, by jumping to a conclusion for political reasons.)

So yeah, I think we’re saying very similar things. In my case it’s “Blame the people, not the models.”

As a side note: I’ve never liked Carl Sagan anyway. :p

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The point that was being made was not some esoteric comment about some obscure mathematical technique.

The point was that the models that have generated an entire global industry of fear, guilt and social engineering are deeply and demonstrably flawed and further, that those flaws have been in the available data for at least a decade, and still the “Global Warming” factions have not acknowledged these basic scientific facts while claiming to be the ones following science in the first place.

Frankly this whole Global Warming fiasco is one of the most glaring examples of the hubris of scientists and politicians I have seen since the “nuclear freeze” insanity of the seventies when you had “scientists” like Carl Sagan testifying in Congress that a single atomic bomb blast could trigger a “nuclear winter” in apparent disregard for the hundreds of such tests that had been performed already, without measurably altering the climate.

The reality is exactly what the skeptics have been saying since “Global Warming” entered the lexicon. It’s a fabricated emergency driven by bad science, bad assumptions and a rush to judgment that would be embarrassing for a high school newspaper, much less a global scientific fraternity.

And when it all comes crumbling down as the gloom and doom prophecies don’t materialize, but the massive costs and economic impact DO materialize, the world’s non-scientists will simply conclude that scientists are morons and politicians are opportunistic control freaks. And they won’t be far wrong.

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It does strike me as a bad assumption to leave as the underpinnings of the science when people are using it to make policy. It’s good to see some seemingly more correct theories getting play in the community, though.

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At the 1 atmosphere altitude on Venus, the temperature is comfortable. As best I can tell, this is a result of the properties of water, balancing between vapor and clouds.