Comments on: Work it http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:12:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Phelps http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152713 Phelps Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:13:25 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152713 I have worked on several cases with a lawyer who observes very closely (and sometimes it seems like a lawyer is perfect for it.) He will still work on Saturday in the middle of trial, especially if we are out of town. He can't take notes. I don't think that he is allowed to contribute to the conversations. But boy, can he think. And there is plenty to do once the sun goes down after all that thinking. The toughest part (that I have seen at least) is that almost every hotel now has electronic locks on the door. Between that and the elevators, it takes some, uh, lawyering. He's made a point of knowing when the cleaning crews are going by (so that the doors are already open) and to follow the right people onto the elevators. I'm also impressed by the social network that he has available to him. No matter where we are, from Cleveland to Mexico City (true examples) there is someone that he can go visit for the day who is already set up. And I'm sure he has hosted a few visitors in his hometown too. <em>Phelps's last blog post..<a href='http://phelps.donotremove.net/?p=1200' rel="nofollow">Rules of Engagement</a></em> I have worked on several cases with a lawyer who observes very closely (and sometimes it seems like a lawyer is perfect for it.) He will still work on Saturday in the middle of trial, especially if we are out of town. He can’t take notes. I don’t think that he is allowed to contribute to the conversations. But boy, can he think. And there is plenty to do once the sun goes down after all that thinking.

The toughest part (that I have seen at least) is that almost every hotel now has electronic locks on the door. Between that and the elevators, it takes some, uh, lawyering. He’s made a point of knowing when the cleaning crews are going by (so that the doors are already open) and to follow the right people onto the elevators.

I’m also impressed by the social network that he has available to him. No matter where we are, from Cleveland to Mexico City (true examples) there is someone that he can go visit for the day who is already set up. And I’m sure he has hosted a few visitors in his hometown too.

Phelps’s last blog post..Rules of Engagement

]]> By: bcostin http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152571 bcostin Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:11:03 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152571 Very interesting, I had no idea the rules were that comprehensive. It might sound strange, but B&H Photo was my first introduction to this practice. They accept no orders (not even online orders) on the Jewish Sabbath or holy days. I've always admired their stance on that. <em>bcostin's last blog post..<a href='http://bcostin.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/age-and-the-presidency/' rel="nofollow">Age and the Presidency</a></em> Very interesting, I had no idea the rules were that comprehensive.

It might sound strange, but B&H Photo was my first introduction to this practice. They accept no orders (not even online orders) on the Jewish Sabbath or holy days. I’ve always admired their stance on that.

bcostin’s last blog post..Age and the Presidency

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152553 Ron Coleman Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:43:51 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152553 Yes, Dean, but the issue I actually blogged about -- the cessation of creative work -- while it is a more subtle aspect of that psychic peace you refer to, really turns out to make a big difference. <em>Ron Coleman's last blog post..<a href='http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2008/03/23/wrong-fears/' rel="nofollow">Wrong fears</a></em> Yes, Dean, but the issue I actually blogged about — the cessation of creative work — while it is a more subtle aspect of that psychic peace you refer to, really turns out to make a big difference.

Ron Coleman’s last blog post..Wrong fears

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152549 Dean Esmay Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:53:14 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152549 Most sources I've read and those I've talked to say that the traditional observance of the sabbath is something quite a lot of Jews look forward to and greatly enjoy. In this modern world especially, I can see why completely shutting out the world and concentrating only on self, family, neighbors, and God would be a greater day of rest than your average "lounge around on a Sunday" type of thing most people think of. Most sources I’ve read and those I’ve talked to say that the traditional observance of the sabbath is something quite a lot of Jews look forward to and greatly enjoy. In this modern world especially, I can see why completely shutting out the world and concentrating only on self, family, neighbors, and God would be a greater day of rest than your average “lounge around on a Sunday” type of thing most people think of.

]]> By: Ron Coleman http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152548 Ron Coleman Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:44:39 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152548 Arnold, it's not as hard as all that to learn the rules, as a practical matter, and to live them, once you know them, is generally speaking liberating, not oppressive. Having lived with and without them, I can say that, and while I would not say it is impossible to appreciate the Sabbath without actually experiencing it the way I do -- I think a good enough writer could in fact do it -- it would not be easy. <em>Ron Coleman's last blog post..<a href='http://likelihoodofsuccess.com/2008/03/23/wrong-fears/' rel="nofollow">Wrong fears</a></em> Arnold, it’s not as hard as all that to learn the rules, as a practical matter, and to live them, once you know them, is generally speaking liberating, not oppressive.

Having lived with and without them, I can say that, and while I would not say it is impossible to appreciate the Sabbath without actually experiencing it the way I do — I think a good enough writer could in fact do it — it would not be easy.

Ron Coleman’s last blog post..Wrong fears

]]> By: jaymaster http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152530 jaymaster Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:36:26 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152530 Wow, that was interesting. The “writing two or more letters” thing covers blogging pretty clearly, I’d say. Thanks! Wow, that was interesting.

The “writing two or more letters” thing covers blogging pretty clearly, I’d say.

Thanks!

]]> By: ArnoldHarris http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152529 ArnoldHarris Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:34:42 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/03/23/work-it/#comment-152529 With all the intricate and interwoven minutiae of what you can and cannot do on Shabat, I get the idea sometimes that Judaism was put together by members of the German General Staff and not by the ancient Hebrews. Arnold Harris Mount Horeb WI With all the intricate and interwoven minutiae of what you can and cannot do on Shabat, I get the idea sometimes that Judaism was put together by members of the German General Staff and not by the ancient Hebrews.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

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