Comments on: Clinton Wins Decisively In Pennsylvania, But Not In A Blowout http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Mon, 21 May 2012 11:55:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: agmartin http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154756 agmartin Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:23:48 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154756 "Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…" Funny how the poll the Obama supporters were pointing out 6 weeks ago was from an agency no one has heard of and was a complete outlier when compared to others is now considered an accurate window on the electorates preference at the time. “Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…”

Funny how the poll the Obama supporters were pointing out 6 weeks ago was from an agency no one has heard of and was a complete outlier when compared to others is now considered an accurate window on the electorates preference at the time.

]]> By: Martin L. Shoemaker http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154750 Martin L. Shoemaker Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:55:42 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154750 Of course, to be fair, I should point out the other echo I keep hearing: Outspent 2 to 1 and still won... Outspent 2 to 1 and still won... Outspent 2 to 1 and still won... Outspent 2 to 1 and still won... Outspent 2 to 1 and still won... It's like there's some talking points store somewhere where everyone shops for opinions... Of course, to be fair, I should point out the other echo I keep hearing:

Outspent 2 to 1 and still won…
Outspent 2 to 1 and still won…
Outspent 2 to 1 and still won…
Outspent 2 to 1 and still won…
Outspent 2 to 1 and still won…

It’s like there’s some talking points store somewhere where everyone shops for opinions…

]]> By: jaymaster http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154719 jaymaster Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:05:48 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154719 Whatever the outcome, it sure is fun to watch! Whatever the outcome, it sure is fun to watch!

]]> By: Scott Kirwin http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154710 Scott Kirwin Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:06:08 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154710 <blockquote>Really, really screwy system the Dems have in place</blockquote> That's because they haven't held a primary without an incumbent/presumptive nominee since 1992. They're a bit rusty.

Really, really screwy system the Dems have in place

That’s because they haven’t held a primary without an incumbent/presumptive nominee since 1992. They’re a bit rusty.

]]> By: urthshu http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154708 urthshu Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:02:02 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154708 Hillary has won 10 States that win in a general election, each of which represent divergent populations throughout the USA. Obama, OTOH, looks more like a regional and racial candidate. Sorry but thats the way it played out, when looked at objectively. Hillary has won 10 States that win in a general election, each of which represent divergent populations throughout the USA.

Obama, OTOH, looks more like a regional and racial candidate.

Sorry but thats the way it played out, when looked at objectively.

]]> By: Hank Barnes http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154703 Hank Barnes Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:14:01 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154703 We must re-frame! Even a 10 point victory in the Dem primary is not a decisive win, because delegates are awarded proportionately. So, when all is said and done , Hillary may net maybe 10-15 delegates at most. She needs 150. Remember when she "won" Texas, but actually lost delegates? Nonetheless, I salute her for the victory, however indecisive it was:) HankB p.s. Addendum -- she did win about 200,000 more popular votes than BO, so then, she will try to use this as an argument to enlist super delegates to select (not elect!) her. Really, really screwy system the Dems have in place We must re-frame!

Even a 10 point victory in the Dem primary is not a decisive win, because delegates are awarded proportionately.

So, when all is said and done , Hillary may net maybe 10-15 delegates at most. She needs 150. Remember when she “won” Texas, but actually lost delegates?

Nonetheless, I salute her for the victory, however indecisive it was:)

HankB

p.s. Addendum — she did win about 200,000 more popular votes than BO, so then, she will try to use this as an argument to enlist super delegates to select (not elect!) her.

Really, really screwy system the Dems have in place

]]> By: thomasemery http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154701 thomasemery Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:08:25 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154701 She was massively outspent yet won handily and decisively. Of course, most smart people know that money doesn't win elections, but if you get outspent 2 to 1 and still win decisively most consider that an impressive victory. She was massively outspent yet won handily and decisively. Of course, most smart people know that money doesn’t win elections, but if you get outspent 2 to 1 and still win decisively most consider that an impressive victory.

]]> By: Martin L. Shoemaker http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154700 Martin L. Shoemaker Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:03:05 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154700 Man, I hear an echo all across the blogosphere: Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... Lost 10 points in 6 weeks... And they call the right an echo chamber... Man, I hear an echo all across the blogosphere:

Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…
Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…
Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…
Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…
Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…
Lost 10 points in 6 weeks…

And they call the right an echo chamber…

]]> By: zach http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154699 zach Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:03:04 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154699 Punning, 6 weeks during which Obama outspent Clinton more than 2 to 1. And during which she herself faced unrelenting attacks from a hostile media and <i>Democratic</i> party! Punning,

6 weeks during which Obama outspent Clinton more than 2 to 1. And during which she herself faced unrelenting attacks from a hostile media and Democratic party!

]]> By: Punning Pundit http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154698 Punning Pundit Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:57:18 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/04/23/13335/#comment-154698 A blowout in which she lost 10 points in 6 weeks-- weeks during which her opponent faced unrelenting attacks from a hostile media and Republican party. On the plus side, the Democratic Party tripled its turnout from 2006... A blowout in which she lost 10 points in 6 weeks– weeks during which her opponent faced unrelenting attacks from a hostile media and Republican party.

On the plus side, the Democratic Party tripled its turnout from 2006…

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