Galactica: Beatings For Everyone!

by Kevin D. on April 26, 2008

in Politics

Well, I can see if there’s a way to hide text so I’m not going to say much on the front page.  It was a good episode with some interesting reveals.

FYI for those looking for this season’s podcasts:  Ron Moore has given them to SciFi but there’s a problem getting them on the webpage.  When that’s resolved they’ll probably all get posted at once.

Also, Moore has begun writing the series finale.

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1 Kevin D. April 26, 2008 at 1:10 am

I’ll put my thoughts here:

1. I never liked Callie. Ever. I about cheered when she died. And I fully agree with Tyrol when he said he had to settle. Damn right he did! Callie is one hell of a step down from Boomer. And Callie is the one that kills the woman Tyrol is still pining for? I’m surprised he didn’t strangle her already.

2. So… what’s with Capria Six and Tigh. Just weird. But seeing how Tigh is acting, and Tyrol’s explosion with Adama, it makes me think the Final Five (four) aren’t as well adjusted as they’d like to be. I don’t care as much for Tory it seems she’s the most together. She only had to abandon her humanity, pretty much, to do it.

Which says something interesting about Caprica Six. She’s said she’s holding on to her guilt. Learning from it. Is that part of what makes one human? Seems so. At this point, then, it would seem Caprica is more human than Tory.

Also, if you look at the "Last Supper" photo, it clearly shows Tigh and Caprica Six very close. I think this relationship between the two is going to be interesting.

3. Roslin is getting on my nerves. I can see why a rift between her and Adama (as evidence by the "Last Supper" photo) would come. She complains about Lee doing what he thinks is right because he hasn’t considered the consequences. Since when does doing the right thing cease being right just because the consequences are unpleasant? I’d say if there are unpleasant concequences for doing the right thing, those concequences exist only because you didn’t do the right thing in the past.

3. What’s up with the Six in Baltar’s head? Now I’m wondering if she’s actually a physical being in some sense. Like she is an angel sent from the Cylon god. When she pulled Baltar up from the ground twice both times were at angles in ways he couldn’t have held himself up by.

4. Cylon god = every other New Age god I’ve ever heard of.

I’m wonder now, though, if perhaps the Cylon god isn’t actually a part of the Colonial pantheon (maybe just unknown to them) that simply wants to do away with the rest of the gods. That this god took their "children", the Cylon, and made them his children to exact his vengeance upon the children of the Lords of Kobol.

So, in the end, what we have is some Greek tragedy where the gods of Olympus are battling it out, with the children of Zeus and everyone else on one side, and some unknown god and his children, the Cylons, on the other.

All in a sci-fi setting.

That’s pretty damned cool.

2 CosmicConservative April 26, 2008 at 1:33 am

Kevin, if this is a more or less standard WordPress site you can use the <!- -more- -> tag and everything after the more tag will not show until the reader clicks on the link to show it.

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No spaces. I can’t seem to get this editor to properly display html tags because, ironically, it is trying to ALLOW displaying of the tags by parsing the escape characters, but it doesn’t do it right.

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3 urthshu April 26, 2008 at 7:52 am

Not in any order…
1] Tyrol is a dick.

2] Several of the skinjobs seem to be hallucinating. If the Cylon god is like any other new age god – & I agree with that as revealed so far – then perhaps the story will wend towards a Gnostic angle, with the hallucinations being some kind of ‘reality beneath the outer reality’. I’m hoping it won’t go that way.

2a] They kind of already are, with talk of Divine Sparks.

3] I kinda liked Callie. She was always a minor character, though.

4] Never liked Roslin. They’ve always sort of emphasized that everybody who might succeed her is a dangerous radical or whatever, like she’s humanity’s last best hope. Paranoid much?

4 Scott April 26, 2008 at 9:58 am

I think it’s pretty clear that the Cylon god is modeled on the Muslim god.

Remember Deanna Biers invocation of part of the Shahada "There is no God but God"?

Plus the Muslim and Cylon God inspire violent fanaticism (or at least the acceptance/excuse for) in their followers.

5 urthshu April 26, 2008 at 10:22 am

No, not Allah. Baltar’s resistance was more passive than violent in the face of the marine guard’s beating.

6 pennywit April 26, 2008 at 11:02 am

<blockquote>Since when does doing the right thing cease being right just because the consequences are unpleasant?</blockquote>

<em>A Song of Ice and Fire</em> plays with this theme.  Eddard Stark takes actions that, while entirely ethical and honorable, plunge the kingdoms into a terrible dynastic war.  Had the high and mighty Eddard Stark been willing to risk tainting his hands with politics, the kingdom might have averted a terrible war.

–|PW|–

7 Kevin D. April 26, 2008 at 11:26 am

Had the high and mighty Eddard Stark been willing to risk tainting his hands with politics, the kingdom might have averted a terrible war.

Which I addressed already with:

I’d say if there are unpleasant consequences for doing the right thing, those consequences exist only because you didn’t do the right thing in the past.

It also goes for people that seem to enjoy gray in the world. They act like certain decisions are difficult because of all the gray that is out there. They seem to forget how gray is created. Black and white are mixed. That means, someone pushed white aside to give black footing. Good was silenced so that evil may be given a chance to speak. That’s the only way you get gray.

8 Jesse_Hill April 26, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Yes, Kevin, but that mixing happened thousands of years ago. There’s no way to separate the black and the white now except in extreme circumstances. Most of the world is gray — but thankfully that usually makes it easier to see the contrast between black / white.

9 pennywit April 26, 2008 at 10:29 pm

Kevin — I’m curious how you would apply that to Ice and Fire, assuming you’ve read that series.

–|PW|–

10 Kevin D. April 26, 2008 at 11:23 pm

Never read it.  I don’t read a ton of fiction.  And next to no fantasy fiction.  Although, I suppose Star Wars might qualify as fantasy fiction.  But I’ve not read many of those books either.

11 pennywit April 27, 2008 at 12:18 am

I will grant you that I am, of course, speaking of literary morality rather than real-world morality, but the flow of good and evil in Martin’s series is intriguing.  By the end of the fourth book (the most recent), there’s really not a sense of "good" and "evil" left.  Just an assessment of who’s "competent" and "not competent" as factions tussle for the throne and constantly re-enact feuds that go back for generations.  It’s pretty heavy stuff, loosely based on the War of the Roses.

–|PW|–

12 McGehee April 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm

Anders seemed to be the one of the four least likely to hold it together — until these last two episodes. Seems his bond with Starbuck has given him an anchor that none of the others has, even Tigh with his devotion to Adama and the idea of being a good soldier.

I don’t know what to think about the look Baltar’s phantom Six gave Tori in that scene where Baltar had effectively adopted Tori’s philosophy.

But I think in that scene Apollo got a little more disgusted with Baltar than he had been before.

13 Jerry Kindall April 28, 2008 at 1:29 pm

I predict we will see Callie again.

14 McGehee May 3, 2008 at 11:56 am

I predict we will see Callie again.

Oof. If she turned out to be the fifth Cylon, she’d kill herself for real. ;-)

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