Comments on: Author Says Divorced/Separated Dads Owe Their Exes a Mother’s Day Gift http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:50:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155676 Dean Esmay Thu, 08 May 2008 03:58:03 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155676 OK, fair enough. OK, fair enough.

]]> By: jerryk72 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155673 jerryk72 Thu, 08 May 2008 01:54:26 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155673 Yeah, maybe comparing him to MM was a little bit of an insult, but I did not intend it to be. Yeah, maybe comparing him to MM was a little bit of an insult, but I did not intend it to be.

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155671 Dean Esmay Thu, 08 May 2008 01:21:30 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155671 The "Media Matters of father's rights?" Oy. That stings. But I'll keep my mouth shut. But let's just say I think Glenn would be thrilled to have even a tenth the money and exposure that they do. Anyway, I would agree that the woman was being manipulative, not deceitful. That said, it's still a little irksome. The "Media Matters of father’s rights?" Oy. That stings. But I’ll keep my mouth shut. But let’s just say I think Glenn would be thrilled to have even a tenth the money and exposure that they do.

Anyway, I would agree that the woman was being manipulative, not deceitful. That said, it’s still a little irksome.

]]> By: Elizabeth Reid http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155662 Elizabeth Reid Wed, 07 May 2008 21:26:37 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155662 I agree with the basic idea that it's weird to expect Mother's Day gifts from your ex (or at all, really, when it comes to gifts of monetary value, although I love the little crafts I've gotten over the last few years) but I agree with all who say it was just a cutesy way of present-grubbing. My son is five and quite advanced for his age, and there is no way in hell that he could ever produce that email. I find it totally implausible that this was intended as a genuine impersonation or a trick. There is nothing whatsoever in the article that indicates that the man in question was actually deceived. Manipulated, maybe, but deceived, no. (There are people out there who really believe that the average four-year-old can spell "exhausted" correctly?) I agree with the basic idea that it’s weird to expect Mother’s Day gifts from your ex (or at all, really, when it comes to gifts of monetary value, although I love the little crafts I’ve gotten over the last few years) but I agree with all who say it was just a cutesy way of present-grubbing. My son is five and quite advanced for his age, and there is no way in hell that he could ever produce that email. I find it totally implausible that this was intended as a genuine impersonation or a trick. There is nothing whatsoever in the article that indicates that the man in question was actually deceived. Manipulated, maybe, but deceived, no. (There are people out there who really believe that the average four-year-old can spell "exhausted" correctly?)

]]> By: jerryk72 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155661 jerryk72 Wed, 07 May 2008 21:07:55 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155661 Kevin: The child is FOUR years old.  At that age most just have the letters down and maybe a few words. But you expect that a FATHER would believe that their child could write:  "Mommy has been talking about Mother’s Day. I only have 143 pennies in my piggy bank. She’s the best mommy ever. She’s been pretty exhausted. I’d like to get her something nice. Can you help? Love you.’" With PERFECT punctuation and everything??  At FOUR?? Really??  Dude, I'm 35 and I still can't get punctuation right. The guy knew the e-mail came from the ex-wife. I mean, do you really think he's that stupid?? I get what Glenn is trying to do. He's like the Media Matters of Father's rights. Thats all fine. But come on! The father knew. How many 4 year olds do you know with their own Yahoo! accounts?? If that lady was really trying to deceive her ex, don't you think she would have messed up a few words?? Kevin:

The child is FOUR years old.  At that age most just have the letters down and maybe a few words.

But you expect that a FATHER would believe that their child could write: 

"Mommy has been talking about Mother’s Day. I only have 143 pennies in my piggy bank. She’s the best mommy ever. She’s been pretty exhausted. I’d like to get her something nice. Can you help? Love you.’"

With PERFECT punctuation and everything??  At FOUR?? Really??  Dude, I’m 35 and I still can’t get punctuation right.

The guy knew the e-mail came from the ex-wife. I mean, do you really think he’s that stupid??

I get what Glenn is trying to do. He’s like the Media Matters of Father’s rights. Thats all fine. But come on!

The father knew.

How many 4 year olds do you know with their own Yahoo! accounts??

If that lady was really trying to deceive her ex, don’t you think she would have messed up a few words??

]]> By: Rodger V Rossman http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155657 Rodger V Rossman Wed, 07 May 2008 20:31:31 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155657 J.A. I guess that the Man Laws that I adhere to strictly ban submission to shameless manipulation by the ladies...ESPECIALLY the hot ones. Why do they <em>expect </em>ownership of my balls and my money? J.A.

I guess that the Man Laws that I adhere to strictly ban submission to shameless manipulation by the ladies…ESPECIALLY the hot ones.

Why do they expect ownership of my balls and my money?

]]> By: RogerR http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155656 RogerR Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:52 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155656 I guess I'm with mikeca and cardeblu.  I suspect the father probably knew. If a judge had ordered him to send his ex to the spa based on the email, then I'm outraged.  But he did so of his own volition, so what. She is his Ex.  I believe the xpression is "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me." I guess I’m with mikeca and cardeblu.  I suspect the father probably knew.
If a judge had ordered him to send his ex to the spa based on the email, then I’m outraged.  But he did so of his own volition, so what.

She is his Ex.  I believe the xpression is "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."

]]> By: John_B http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155650 John_B Wed, 07 May 2008 18:58:26 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155650 J.A. Eddy: While she's definitely attractive in body, there's an ugliness of spirit expressed through her actions that is more than off-putting. Now, if there were even a hint that her acts were purely a joke, that everyone understood them as such, it might be a different story. J.A. Eddy: While she’s definitely attractive in body, there’s an ugliness of spirit expressed through her actions that is more than off-putting.

Now, if there were even a hint that her acts were purely a joke, that everyone understood them as such, it might be a different story.

]]> By: Kevin D. http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155649 Kevin D. Wed, 07 May 2008 18:57:51 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155649 There's nothing in this post that indicates the father "knew" it was the mother sending the e-mail and it seems that Mr. Sacks agrees with me. And all we know is that she went to a spa, not that the father paid for a spa specifically.  Hell, I can send my wife to a spa for $40! Talk about reading into a post.  Why don't you just re-write it and say dad sprung for a trip to Paris.  It's as accurate as your account! There’s nothing in this post that indicates the father "knew" it was the mother sending the e-mail and it seems that Mr. Sacks agrees with me.

And all we know is that she went to a spa, not that the father paid for a spa specifically.  Hell, I can send my wife to a spa for $40!

Talk about reading into a post.  Why don’t you just re-write it and say dad sprung for a trip to Paris.  It’s as accurate as your account!

]]> By: ArnoldHarris http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155647 ArnoldHarris Wed, 07 May 2008 18:41:44 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/author-brags-how-she-impersonated-her-4-year-old-on-the-internet-to-trick-her-ex-into-sending-money-so-she-can-go-to-health-spa/#comment-155647 Happily for both of us and our four children, Stefi and I have strength of character and we never needed to play lowdown tricks with one another to make sure all our family's needs got taken care of. "Needs", of course, does not imply "wants". So I can't say we ever were in position to spoil the hell out of any one of the four. But they all got fed, clothed, housed, educated, kept on the straight and narrow as Stefi and I understood that, and we gave them the companionship that is irreplaceable in turning your children into your closest lifelong friends as well. And yes,we gave them love as well as companionship. Not all men and women are in position to do that. And feeling uncharacteristically charitable today, I will not jump to conclusions about this unfortunate young woman referenced in Glenn Sacks' post. Even if she caused her own problems; which appears to be the case. Arnold Harris Mount Horeb WI   Happily for both of us and our four children, Stefi and I have strength of character and we never needed to play lowdown tricks with one another to make sure all our family’s needs got taken care of.

"Needs", of course, does not imply "wants". So I can’t say we ever were in position to spoil the hell out of any one of the four. But they all got fed, clothed, housed, educated, kept on the straight and narrow as Stefi and I understood that, and we gave them the companionship that is irreplaceable in turning your children into your closest lifelong friends as well. And yes,we gave them love as well as companionship.

Not all men and women are in position to do that. And feeling uncharacteristically charitable today, I will not jump to conclusions about this unfortunate young woman referenced in Glenn Sacks’ post. Even if she caused her own problems; which appears to be the case.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
 

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