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		<title>By: Rodger V Rossman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/08/dont-eat-what-you-wont-kill/#comment-155872</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger V Rossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 07:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stefi buys these pump bottles of cat repellant and sprays it around like incense at a catholic church funeral service.&quot;

Like I said, Arnold Harris says some of the damnedest things.



&quot;By the way. Rabbit doesnâ€™t taste bad, if it ever comes down to that.&quot;

That&#039;s what my dad says,  Social Security just ain&#039;t cutting it for him and my mom .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Stefi buys these pump bottles of cat repellant and sprays it around like incense at a catholic church funeral service.&quot;</p>
<p>Like I said, Arnold Harris says some of the damnedest things.</p>
<p>&quot;By the way. Rabbit doesnâ€™t taste bad, if it ever comes down to that.&quot;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what my dad says,  Social Security just ain&#8217;t cutting it for him and my mom .</p>
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		<title>By: ArnoldHarris</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/08/dont-eat-what-you-wont-kill/#comment-155831</link>
		<dc:creator>ArnoldHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 11:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RVR,

Well, I&#039;m one of the damnedest guys you will encounter around here. So I say some of the damnedest things to earn and keep that exalted status.

I never spout off about animal behavior. Mostly because I don&#039;t really give a damn about what a cat may be thinking.Â  We keep and feed them mainly for amusement. The only behavior control we expect to exercize overÂ our cat of momentÂ to keep him from pissing on our leather-upholstered furniture. (Stefi buys these pump bottles of cat repellant and sprays it around like incense at a catholic church funeral service.) 

That, and we don&#039;t wantÂ the cat to try his fangs onÂ the rabbit that we&#039;ve also kept around hereÂ since our daughter in Milwaukee found out she is allergic to them.Â  (Like so many parents, we get stuck with our kids&#039; pets. LuckilyÂ  for them, they know better than to try bringing a dog around here. ) In any case, whenever we put theÂ cat and rabbitÂ together to romp around the kitchen, the rabbit tries humping the cat, who responds in turn with his canines.

By the way. Rabbit doesn&#039;t taste bad, if it ever comes down to that.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RVR,</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m one of the damnedest guys you will encounter around here. So I say some of the damnedest things to earn and keep that exalted status.</p>
<p>I never spout off about animal behavior. Mostly because I don&#8217;t really give a damn about what a cat may be thinking.Â  We keep and feed them mainly for amusement. The only behavior control we expect to exercize overÂ our cat of momentÂ to keep him from pissing on our leather-upholstered furniture. (Stefi buys these pump bottles of cat repellant and sprays it around like incense at a catholic church funeral service.) </p>
<p>That, and we don&#8217;t wantÂ the cat to try his fangs onÂ the rabbit that we&#8217;ve also kept around hereÂ since our daughter in Milwaukee found out she is allergic to them.Â  (Like so many parents, we get stuck with our kids&#8217; pets. LuckilyÂ  for them, they know better than to try bringing a dog around here. ) In any case, whenever we put theÂ cat and rabbitÂ together to romp around the kitchen, the rabbit tries humping the cat, who responds in turn with his canines.</p>
<p>By the way. Rabbit doesn&#8217;t taste bad, if it ever comes down to that.</p>
<p>Arnold Harris<br />
Mount Horeb WI</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger V Rossman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/08/dont-eat-what-you-wont-kill/#comment-155821</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger V Rossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 08:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnold Harris says some of the damnedest things.

&quot;On the other hand, I like cats. Always have. Always will. They donâ€™t stink....&quot;

I have  couple of friends that say that my cats stink.  But, then again, I think that those guys, my friends, stink.

By the way, Arnold, my dog suggests that I should boycott Dean&#039;s World.  All this interpretation of Animal Behavior is really bugging her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnold Harris says some of the damnedest things.</p>
<p>&quot;On the other hand, I like cats. Always have. Always will. They donâ€™t stink&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have  couple of friends that say that my cats stink.  But, then again, I think that those guys, my friends, stink.</p>
<p>By the way, Arnold, my dog suggests that I should boycott Dean&#8217;s World.  All this interpretation of Animal Behavior is really bugging her.</p>
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		<title>By: ArnoldHarris</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/08/dont-eat-what-you-wont-kill/#comment-155810</link>
		<dc:creator>ArnoldHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike dogs intensely. I never have had one around my house and I never will, and I&#039;ve never lived in anybody&#039;s house where I had to share space with a dog.Â  I don&#039;t like their peculiar odor and I don&#039;t like them hanging around me. Would I eat one? No, because I think that meat from carnivorous animals tastes bad.
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On the other hand, I like cats. Always have. Always will. They don&#039;t stink, and they hang around me only when they want to be fed, let out, or for some other specific reason. Would I eat a deadÂ but cooked cat? No again, for the same reason I wouldn&#039;t eat dog meat unless I were starving.

I don&#039;t bond with any other kinds of animals. And I have no taboos about eating their meat except as described above.

As for companionship, I have a good-looking and intelligent wife. All things considered, she&#039;s a far better companion that anyÂ animalÂ I could think of offhand.

As for hunting them, I wouldn&#039;t shoot any animal unless I intended to skin, cook and eat it. Which is a hell of a lot of trouble to go through for a mooseburger. (I had grilled mooseburger one time back in the &#039;50s, from a tavern owner friend who brought some back from a hunt in Canada.)Â So my guns are reserved for gunrange sports marksmanship contests. And self-protection if it ever comes to that.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike dogs intensely. I never have had one around my house and I never will, and I&#8217;ve never lived in anybody&#8217;s house where I had to share space with a dog.Â  I don&#8217;t like their peculiar odor and I don&#8217;t like them hanging around me. Would I eat one? No, because I think that meat from carnivorous animals tastes bad.<br />
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On the other hand, I like cats. Always have. Always will. They don&#8217;t stink, and they hang around me only when they want to be fed, let out, or for some other specific reason. Would I eat a deadÂ but cooked cat? No again, for the same reason I wouldn&#8217;t eat dog meat unless I were starving.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t bond with any other kinds of animals. And I have no taboos about eating their meat except as described above.</p>
<p>As for companionship, I have a good-looking and intelligent wife. All things considered, she&#8217;s a far better companion that anyÂ animalÂ I could think of offhand.</p>
<p>As for hunting them, I wouldn&#8217;t shoot any animal unless I intended to skin, cook and eat it. Which is a hell of a lot of trouble to go through for a mooseburger. (I had grilled mooseburger one time back in the &#8217;50s, from a tavern owner friend who brought some back from a hunt in Canada.)Â So my guns are reserved for gunrange sports marksmanship contests. And self-protection if it ever comes to that.</p>
<p>Arnold Harris<br />
Mount Horeb WI</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She probably wouldn&#039;t make it into veterinarian school very long, since they wind up killing quite a few animals as part of the process of getting that degree (or so I understand).

I suspect that the &quot;squick&quot; factor long term will be what leads people to more and more move toward vat-grown meat. When you can use cloning and similar technology to just make meat without actually killing any animals to get it, people will (as generations go by) get less and less interested in actually killing any animals. Not to mention that it&#039;ll probably eventually be cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She probably wouldn&#8217;t make it into veterinarian school very long, since they wind up killing quite a few animals as part of the process of getting that degree (or so I understand).</p>
<p>I suspect that the &quot;squick&quot; factor long term will be what leads people to more and more move toward vat-grown meat. When you can use cloning and similar technology to just make meat without actually killing any animals to get it, people will (as generations go by) get less and less interested in actually killing any animals. Not to mention that it&#8217;ll probably eventually be cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanâ€” Evil Rob has a niece who is in the semi-vegetarian mode. For her it&#039;s not a moral decision so much as it is a &quot;squick&quot; decisionâ€” for a long while she wanted to be a vet and was anthropomorphizing her food a lot.
I suspect she&#039;s still in that mode. She does not in the least way complain about anyone else having meat in front of her, she just can&#039;t bring herself to do it. (I inttroduced her to Indian foodâ€” they&#039;ve got great vegetarian and semi-veg entrees.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deanâ€” Evil Rob has a niece who is in the semi-vegetarian mode. For her it&#8217;s not a moral decision so much as it is a &quot;squick&quot; decisionâ€” for a long while she wanted to be a vet and was anthropomorphizing her food a lot.<br />
I suspect she&#8217;s still in that mode. She does not in the least way complain about anyone else having meat in front of her, she just can&#8217;t bring herself to do it. (I inttroduced her to Indian foodâ€” they&#8217;ve got great vegetarian and semi-veg entrees.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rune from Oslo Norway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rune from Oslo Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Coleman { 05.08.08 at 6:27 pm }

&quot;What is the logical premise of the suggestion that if you wouldnâ€™t kill it, you shouldnâ€™t eat it?&quot;

It&#039;s the chickenhawk smear applied to food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Coleman { 05.08.08 at 6:27 pm }</p>
<p>&quot;What is the logical premise of the suggestion that if you wouldnâ€™t kill it, you shouldnâ€™t eat it?&quot;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the chickenhawk smear applied to food.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, didn&#039;t anyone ever tell you that fish are fast vegetables? ;-)

Me, I&#039;ll eat just about anything that don&#039;t eat me first. I haven&#039;t killed anything higher up the food chain than fish, but I expect that will change.

&lt;em&gt;Ken Hall&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://oldsmoblogger.blogspot.com/2008/04/hymn.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hymn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, didn&#8217;t anyone ever tell you that fish are fast vegetables? ;-)</p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;ll eat just about anything that don&#8217;t eat me first. I haven&#8217;t killed anything higher up the food chain than fish, but I expect that will change.</p>
<p><em>Ken Hall&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://oldsmoblogger.blogspot.com/2008/04/hymn.html' rel="nofollow">Hymn</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: teqjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>teqjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I grew up in a hunting household, and something strikes me as not-quite-right about going your whole life eating meat without ever being exposed directly to what that entails.&quot;Â Â Â 
Â 
Whie I can understand that,Â the only times this suburb/city guy ever saw meat-in-the-raw was as roadkill. 
May I assume you use plates? Have you ever thrown a pot good enough to be sold? Have you ever drilled for oil (you may have drilled for water, I dunno)? Mined for potassium nitrate and sulfur to make your own fireworks? 
Does it feel not-quite-right now? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;However, I grew up in a hunting household, and something strikes me as not-quite-right about going your whole life eating meat without ever being exposed directly to what that entails.&quot;Â Â Â <br />
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Whie I can understand that,Â the only times this suburb/city guy ever saw meat-in-the-raw was as roadkill.<br />
May I assume you use plates? Have you ever thrown a pot good enough to be sold? Have you ever drilled for oil (you may have drilled for water, I dunno)? Mined for potassium nitrate and sulfur to make your own fireworks?<br />
Does it feel not-quite-right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Justus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Justus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegetarians, as the usual definition of the word, does include eating eggs and dairy products.Â  Vegan is the term for excluding all animal products.Â 

&lt;em&gt;Dave Justus&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.davejustus.com/2008/05/09/kindle/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kindle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegetarians, as the usual definition of the word, does include eating eggs and dairy products.Â  Vegan is the term for excluding all animal products.Â </p>
<p><em>Dave Justus&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.davejustus.com/2008/05/09/kindle/' rel="nofollow">Kindle</a></em></p>
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