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		<title>By: ArnoldHarris</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/10/obamas-dan-quayle-moment/#comment-155847</link>
		<dc:creator>ArnoldHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyrone,
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I thinkÂ Senator Obama, if nominated,Â won&#039;t win the US presidency against Senator McCainÂ regardless of what questions he asks or answers. 

The results of all the Democratic PartyÂ primary elections to date show that he attracts theÂ vote mostly of black Americans and a relatively narrowÂ coalition of white AmericanÂ leftist liberals of the type who always are found hanging around the fringes of every black cause, and who -- unsurprisingly -- often try to compete with black Americans for who will be in charge of these causes. 

He attracts few working class whites; few Roman Catholics; few Latinos; few small-town and rural people. The Jews he attracts are mainly self-hating types who are the first to condemn and the last to support the rights of the jewish nation in the Land of Israel.

A liberalÂ quasi-black candidate running with the backing of a bunch of rich and well-connected leftist whites probablyÂ can beat snarling old Hilary Clinton and cop the Democratic PartyÂ nomination.Â  ButÂ that sort of man will never beat a moderate Republican such asÂ Senator John McCain, who forte is attracing independent and non-alignedÂ voters.Â Above all, people trust that manÂ in a way they never trusted either of the Bushes, neither of the Clintons, and certainly not Senator Wonderful.
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Maybe you&#039;re wondering what the hell my particular interest is in this senator and his campaign. So here goes.

I grew up around black kids, worked beside them in low-paying jobs such as setting pins in bowling alleys (long before automatic pin-setting machines were installed), served with them in the US Army. Went to school with them at the University of Illinois at their old Chicago Navy Pier campus and downstate in Champaign-Urbana. 

But this Senator Obama doesn&#039;t remind me of any kind of black American I ever hung out with.Â Â There&#039;s something about him that&#039;s a little too slick and phony for my tastes. 

And frankly, I don&#039;t trust him, because I think he has a presidential agenda that is not right for the USA, and because I think that six days a week, Â he makes a conscious effort to become an integral part of some sort of flashy elitist crowd, but Sunday he&#039;s Mister Chicago Southside black politician.Â 

In other words, he&#039;s a blackÂ guy when he attends thatÂ Sunday church in Chicago with this or that foul-mouthed minister for going on 20 years, swaying back and forth, nodding his head in agreement with the hate talk, and swaying to theÂ soul music.Â 

Then heÂ puts on another face altogether and becomes anÂ ivy league whiteÂ guy in his slick looking movie star suitÂ when he mixes it up with the rich wine and cheesers in their great housesÂ and in their gated and protectedÂ surburbs.Â Â 

Frankly, I would have trusted Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson and even the Reverend Al Sharpton more than I would everÂ trust a SenatorÂ Barack Hussein Obama, because I think that manÂ has a problem of personal identity that never can be resolved, and I cannot relate to folks who have that kind of problem.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrone,<br />
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I thinkÂ Senator Obama, if nominated,Â won&#8217;t win the US presidency against Senator McCainÂ regardless of what questions he asks or answers. </p>
<p>The results of all the Democratic PartyÂ primary elections to date show that he attracts theÂ vote mostly of black Americans and a relatively narrowÂ coalition of white AmericanÂ leftist liberals of the type who always are found hanging around the fringes of every black cause, and who &#8212; unsurprisingly &#8212; often try to compete with black Americans for who will be in charge of these causes. </p>
<p>He attracts few working class whites; few Roman Catholics; few Latinos; few small-town and rural people. The Jews he attracts are mainly self-hating types who are the first to condemn and the last to support the rights of the jewish nation in the Land of Israel.</p>
<p>A liberalÂ quasi-black candidate running with the backing of a bunch of rich and well-connected leftist whites probablyÂ can beat snarling old Hilary Clinton and cop the Democratic PartyÂ nomination.Â  ButÂ that sort of man will never beat a moderate Republican such asÂ Senator John McCain, who forte is attracing independent and non-alignedÂ voters.Â Above all, people trust that manÂ in a way they never trusted either of the Bushes, neither of the Clintons, and certainly not Senator Wonderful.<br />
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Maybe you&#8217;re wondering what the hell my particular interest is in this senator and his campaign. So here goes.</p>
<p>I grew up around black kids, worked beside them in low-paying jobs such as setting pins in bowling alleys (long before automatic pin-setting machines were installed), served with them in the US Army. Went to school with them at the University of Illinois at their old Chicago Navy Pier campus and downstate in Champaign-Urbana. </p>
<p>But this Senator Obama doesn&#8217;t remind me of any kind of black American I ever hung out with.Â Â There&#8217;s something about him that&#8217;s a little too slick and phony for my tastes. </p>
<p>And frankly, I don&#8217;t trust him, because I think he has a presidential agenda that is not right for the USA, and because I think that six days a week, Â he makes a conscious effort to become an integral part of some sort of flashy elitist crowd, but Sunday he&#8217;s Mister Chicago Southside black politician.Â </p>
<p>In other words, he&#8217;s a blackÂ guy when he attends thatÂ Sunday church in Chicago with this or that foul-mouthed minister for going on 20 years, swaying back and forth, nodding his head in agreement with the hate talk, and swaying to theÂ soul music.Â </p>
<p>Then heÂ puts on another face altogether and becomes anÂ ivy league whiteÂ guy in his slick looking movie star suitÂ when he mixes it up with the rich wine and cheesers in their great housesÂ and in their gated and protectedÂ surburbs.Â Â </p>
<p>Frankly, I would have trusted Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson and even the Reverend Al Sharpton more than I would everÂ trust a SenatorÂ Barack Hussein Obama, because I think that manÂ has a problem of personal identity that never can be resolved, and I cannot relate to folks who have that kind of problem.</p>
<p>Arnold Harris<br />
Mount Horeb WI</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Steels II</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/10/obamas-dan-quayle-moment/#comment-155845</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Steels II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife, a full-fledged Obama supporter and campaign volunteer, told me she appreciates that ad because it didn&#039;t go &quot;all Rev. Wright, Muslim insurgent, flag pin lapel on us&quot;.Â  Although she disagreed vehemently with the values question, she thought it was fair.

And that my friends tells me all I need to know if the ad was fine.Â  If Senator Obama gets the Dem nomination and that&#039;s what he faces, and he can&#039;t answer them enough, then he won&#039;t win.

To Arnold&#039;s point, the &quot;his campaign are ignoring the primary elections in Florida and Michigan&quot; is just false.Â  He followed DNC rules (as did Edwards and Richardson).Â  And he didn&#039;t cause the mess in the first place.Â  Let&#039;s place the blame with the states and the DNC.Â  The Democrats built this and let them fix it as a whole, not as one campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife, a full-fledged Obama supporter and campaign volunteer, told me she appreciates that ad because it didn&#8217;t go &quot;all Rev. Wright, Muslim insurgent, flag pin lapel on us&quot;.Â  Although she disagreed vehemently with the values question, she thought it was fair.</p>
<p>And that my friends tells me all I need to know if the ad was fine.Â  If Senator Obama gets the Dem nomination and that&#8217;s what he faces, and he can&#8217;t answer them enough, then he won&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>To Arnold&#8217;s point, the &quot;his campaign are ignoring the primary elections in Florida and Michigan&quot; is just false.Â  He followed DNC rules (as did Edwards and Richardson).Â  And he didn&#8217;t cause the mess in the first place.Â  Let&#8217;s place the blame with the states and the DNC.Â  The Democrats built this and let them fix it as a whole, not as one campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: ArnoldHarris</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/10/obamas-dan-quayle-moment/#comment-155843</link>
		<dc:creator>ArnoldHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he&#039;s counting GAMAL as five doubleÂ states, plus Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. I understand some of his friends and supporters haveÂ had long standing plans for GAMAL.

But because he and his campaign are ignoring the primary elections in Florida and Michigan, that would bring the total back down to 55, wouldn&#039;t it?

Maybe some folks in the national news media ought to discuss some of this with him. On prime time.

Considering this is in fact a national election for a president of the United States.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he&#8217;s counting GAMAL as five doubleÂ states, plus Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. I understand some of his friends and supporters haveÂ had long standing plans for GAMAL.</p>
<p>But because he and his campaign are ignoring the primary elections in Florida and Michigan, that would bring the total back down to 55, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Maybe some folks in the national news media ought to discuss some of this with him. On prime time.</p>
<p>Considering this is in fact a national election for a president of the United States.</p>
<p>Arnold Harris<br />
Mount Horeb WI</p>
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		<title>By: La Ventanita</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/10/obamas-dan-quayle-moment/#comment-155842</link>
		<dc:creator>La Ventanita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not defending the guy, but it strikes me as possible (I&#039;d need to count myself to be sure), that the extra 9 &quot;states&quot; (since he hasn&#039;t visited Alaska or Hawaii) could be US Territories?

As to the ad, I like the ad.  I think it&#039;s fair, balanced and completely appropriate; they are not attacks they are fair questions to a possible commander in chief &lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/09/breaking-news-video-journalists-ogle-obama&quot;&gt;who likes to be ogled&lt;/a&gt;.

That behavior I find not only disgusting but embarassing as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not defending the guy, but it strikes me as possible (I&#8217;d need to count myself to be sure), that the extra 9 &quot;states&quot; (since he hasn&#8217;t visited Alaska or Hawaii) could be US Territories?</p>
<p>As to the ad, I like the ad.  I think it&#8217;s fair, balanced and completely appropriate; they are not attacks they are fair questions to a possible commander in chief <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/09/breaking-news-video-journalists-ogle-obama">who likes to be ogled</a>.</p>
<p>That behavior I find not only disgusting but embarassing as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dishman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/05/10/obamas-dan-quayle-moment/#comment-155839</link>
		<dc:creator>Dishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, he&#039;s revealed the truth...

He&#039;s planning to invade Canada, and forgot that he hasn&#039;t been elected President yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, he&#8217;s revealed the truth&#8230;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s planning to invade Canada, and forgot that he hasn&#8217;t been elected President yet.</p>
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