Her husband seems to definitely covet the Veep slot for her.
I maintain that if it were offered, she’d be foolish to turn it down.
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Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy.
Her husband seems to definitely covet the Veep slot for her.
I maintain that if it were offered, she’d be foolish to turn it down.
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Hillary does not want to be vice-president.
The battle, here, is that Bill Clinton has had his proclamation to any future black caucus/political leadership/overlordship /ownership seriously challenged by a one generation removed lawyerly upstart with more authentic credentials in the black community. Like Bill can now move out of Harlem.
This leaves Hillary necessarily required to rely on her own supporting actual political bases now and future within which is that of spokesperson for women politico’s seeking higher office, Nancy Pelosi notwithstanding and prolly slightly closer to the Geraldine Ferraro wing of the democrat party
Are we getting anywhere ?
Like Yogi Berra sez,
It ain’t over til its over.
BTW, Chelsea Clinton will be eligible to run for prez in 2016, but Jenna Bush will not be 35 until late November 2016, after the elections well unless they change the date.
I repeat myself in a different context:
Hillary Clinton would have far more power as leader (small ‘l’) of the Senate Democrats than she’d have as either Supreme Court Justice or Vice President.
I think she’d go for the power, not the title.
She might be foolish to take it.
If the polls are right, its really possible that Obama won’t do very well in the general, leaving her to give the Dems a very big "I told you so" in 2012.
Its risky, and a lot of things can happen in 4 years, but it would pretty much guarantee her ‘elder statesman/kingmaker’ status thereafter.
If she takes the VP slot and Obama loses, it’s a win for her because that’s the fastest way for her to repair her image in the eyes of Obama supporters who are angry with her for dragging the race out, and she sets herself up to run again in 2012.
If she takes VP and Obama wins, then her career is finished if he loses in 2012, and she’d be bordering on too old to run for a first term as President in 2016. I don’t think the VP slot by itself is worth more to her than her current Senate career.
I don’t think it will happen.
1. She has incentive not to take it (Obama loses general, Clinton is well-positioned for ’12).
2. He has incentive not to give it (Who wants her political baggage or the Clintons running around in the VP office, scheming to undermine him.)
They are not natural allies.
JFK and LBJ is not a good comparison. They actually lost to Nixon-Lodge, but for some creative voting in Cook County, Ill.
JFK and RFK both hated LBJ and the feeling was mutual. If JFK had survived 2 terms, ’68 would have been very difficult with LBJ and RFK both vying for the Presidency.Â
Just say no to Obama-Clinton.
HB
Maniakes: You got it right on what happens if Obama-Clinton loses. She’s primed for 2012.
If they win, she at minimum tops out her career with four years of being the first woman elected to the Vice Presidency. At minimum she makes major history, and might just become President by several possible (some unfortunate but still possible) ways. Worst case she retires after four years as Veep.
Does she really want to finish out her Senate term anyway? I mean, really?
I think John Burgess has the best-reasoned argument. Unless you are a Richard Cheney serving a relatively weak president such as George W Bush, the vice presidency usually is a highway to oblivion unless the chief dies in office. Richard Nixon was atypical.
And all things considered, the worst thing that could happen to her is to be the all-but-ignored vice president in a presidency such as we would get with Barack Hussein Obama. Scorned by the president and all his insiders. To be trotted out dutifully for the cameras at the beginning or end of special events. To be shipped around the world on meaningless foreign visits. To be patronized by a gang of people who clearly have shown they despise you and all that you represent. I think Hillary Rodham Clinton is made of a better grade of steel than that.
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In any case, irrespective of whoever Barack Hussein Obama may choose for his smiling underling, most Americans will find reason not to vote for him.
Because he and his gang have turned this election into a question of racial identity. And that is an issue on which they will always be on the losing end, as long as America is essentially a European-populated country.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WIÂ
Does she really want to finish out her Senate term anyway? I mean, really?
Why wouldn’t she? Being a US Senator is a fairly powerful and prestigious job, and with her connections and name recognition she would be one of the most powerful and influential Senators, if not the most powerful and influential.
In order for VP to be a better job, either she’d have to find a way to restore the "President of the Senate" aspect of the job to its original intended importance, or she’d have to get Obama to agree to delegate Cheney-like executive branch authority to her. Especially considering that she’d be VP only for 4-8 years, while she could stay in the Senate for another 20+ years if her health holds out.
Wow to go down the road of Geraldine Ferraro! I think she’ll pass. I wonder if she likes ambassadorship? Maybe she can be Dennis Kucinich’s ambassador to Guatamala!
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