Glenn links Shannon Love’s critique of Steve Chapman’s piece on Iraq over at Reason, in which he calls for an Iraqi plebiscite on the continuation of a coalition military presence. Chapman’s take is… well, a bit odd.
In light of the improvement in security over the last year, you would expect most Iraqis to have a new appreciation for our efforts.
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But that was not the prevailing sentiment last week among Sadr’s followers.
Yes, how strange the very people profiting from the violence and targeted in the the U.S. efforts to reduce violence oppose those efforts. Does Chapman not know this, or is he deliberately being misleading? Maybe we should be charitable and assume he’s being ironic.
Chapman also cites the February poll of Iraqis in a similarly misleading or ill-informed fashion. He accurately quotes a portion about ”oppos[ing] foreign troops,” adding:
 Yet all indications are that Iraqis can unite behind only one proposition: Yankee, go home!
But he doesn’t link the poll, and perhaps for good reason: contrary to his assertion, the poll more relevantly finds only 38% want coalition forces to leave immediately (p4), down from 47% in August 2007. And in fact that number is likely overstated, as the poll wildly oversamples Sunnnis (p44), who tend to be most opposed to coalition forces. (The survey puts them at 30%, while most estimates place them at 10-20%.) It’s also likely that number has continued to decline right along with the violence, as it did from Aug to Feb.
Maybe he’s just not familiar with all the details of the poll or maybe he’s cherrypicking, but I’m not betting on irony here.Â
It’s worth noting again too, even the smallest adjustment for the sectarian affiliation finds a majority of Iraqis believing the invasion was the right decision.
I’m also struck that a libertarian would be in favor of a result he believes is more likely lead to reduced liberty for Iraqis, even if that result was the based on the outcome of a democratic vote (libertarians above all others should understand democracy is often in conflict with liberty). Unfortunately, for many libertarians the need to support liberty ends at our borders, and freeing the U.S. from outside commitments trumps whether 25 million people have some semblance of freedom.Â
But he’s probably wrong about how that vote would turn out. So yes, absolutely let’s have a referendum of Iraqis on whether they want our help for another year. Let’s have Iraqis debate whether Iran and the militias or the U.S. really have their best interests at heart. And let’s raise the ante by having the result be binding on both Presidential candidates.


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Dave
Libertarians – the big L types – are nutjobs. They tend to be the @sshats that WFB jr chased out of the conservative movement in the 1950′s. They are about as conservative as Rosie O’Donnell and her buddies. The biggest problem with the Libertarian party is that it is full of Libertarians.
The Libertarian theory of the Universe is that if you just be nice to the Polar Bears they will be nice to you.
Now replace Polar Bears with people. I admit the odds improve. It is still far from certain.
lol he’s almost beyond parody. "You’d think with the increase in security AQI would be on our side!"
… and then there was the guy who actually tried that with Polar Bears…
It worked for quite a while. They mostly accepted him (as an idiot)…
until he took his girlfriend there. Two bears killed him for having sex when he hadn’t earned that station.
Sam Clemens saw it differently. He said if you make a dog prosperous, he won’t bite you. That is the difference between a man and a dog.
This emphasizes something I’ve been saying for some time: today’s “libertarians†aren’t libertarians at all. They’re minarchists and anarchists who believe that liberty is maximized by reducing the size of government.
I think it’s a naive view. I believe that you maximize liberty by right-sizing government—putting it in the right places at the right scale, not minimizing or eliminating it. The “libertariansâ€, like the paleo-cons are isolationists.
Well they’re not isolationist on trade, just on military affairs. They don’t appear to understand that trade cannot flow freely when one side has guns and the other does not (or refuses to use them).
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