Saturday Night Open Thread

by Scott Kirwin on June 7, 2008

in Politics

11:24 EST – Real late and really Saturday for the next few minutes at least.

{ 12 comments }

1 Martin L. Shoemaker June 7, 2008 at 10:32 pm

First!

Finally saw Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. It takes a special kind of talent to take superheroes, globe-spanning adventure, cosmic wonder, and the end of the world and render it dull, boring, and nonsensical.

2 JLBussey June 7, 2008 at 10:41 pm

There was a nice sunset last night, and today I drove down to Mineral, Washington to ride the Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad.  Crummy weather, but still great fun.  I love old iron!
Jan

JLBussey’s last blog post..Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad

3 jaymaster June 7, 2008 at 11:24 pm

Since I commented on your Wednesday afternoon Friday night open thread, I guess I should say something now. 

This is all I’ve got.

  http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/12128082129930.xml&coll=1

4 Martin L. Shoemaker June 8, 2008 at 7:39 am

jaymaster, that’s a load of crap.

5 Kevin D. June 8, 2008 at 8:21 am

It takes a special kind of talent to take superheroes, globe-spanning adventure, cosmic wonder, and the end of the world and render it dull, boring, and nonsensical.

I think this is one of the reasons Marvel Comics is trying to get all the film rights back for their properties so that they can produce them in-house.  Iron Man has been a huge success and I’m hearing The Incredible Hulk has the same magic as well.  I’m more of a DC guy now than Marvel but if Marvel producing more their films themselves makes better comic book movies, I’m all for it.

6 Martin L. Shoemaker June 8, 2008 at 8:55 am

The sad part is, I thought the first Fantastic Four was a lot better than the reviews I read. It didn’t rank with the best superhero films, but it had the combination of family charm and action that Fantastic Four calls for. So I hoped the same would be true for the sequel. Instead, I don’t think the reviewers trashed it enough: boring acting (other than Michael Chiklis, who is way too talented for this film), no chemistry between the leads, and a stupid plot device leading to a stupider deus ex machina.

Things happened not because they made sense, but only because they made cool effects. Why did they split the Fantasticar? No reason. Oh, the characters claimed it was necessary, but there was no reason (unless it was to sell Fantasticar toys). Why does the U.S. Army have a base in Siberia? No reason.

And why did the filmmakers take the Galactus Trilogy — a story about the freakin’ end of the Earth! — and push that all into a confusing last ten minutes of the film, spending the rest of the film on how stupid and arrogant and evil the U.S. Army is? Reed Richards practically paraphrased Senator Kerry on "If you work hard, you go to school, if you’re stupid, you go in the Army."

7 zach June 8, 2008 at 9:22 am

Martin,

i think their first, and worst, mistake was to make galactus a stupid cloud.  that and then the fantastic four didn’t really DO anything.  silver surfer was the hero.

8 Kevin D. June 8, 2008 at 11:06 am

And a giant purple man is better than a cloud?

I thought the cloud worked well and you did see Galactus at the center of it.

9 Martin L. Shoemaker June 8, 2008 at 12:10 pm

Well, Kevin, the original vision of Galactus was as a god, akin to Zeus. He was supposed to be an unbeatable menacing figure, so powerful and so far above us that we were of no concern to him. Personification made sense for that. Now this film has almost zero in common with that original story. It’s closer in that regard to Ultimate Galactus, in which Galactus was a "cloud" of small robots acting as a single entity.

Of course, after the Tick spoof, it’s hard to take the big planet-eating guy seriously.

And you saw Galactus at the center? Man, your eyes must be better than mine. Of course, I was watching a small hotel TV from across the room.

10 Kevin D. June 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Check out the pic here.  It’s not like you see him face-to-face but if you know what he looks like, and know to look for him (I did when I saw the film), he’s there.

11 Martin L. Shoemaker June 8, 2008 at 3:01 pm
12 TexasAg03 June 9, 2008 at 8:50 am

I was extremely disappointed in the "Galactus" of the film.  Maybe they can say that the Surfer’s actions caused the "cloud" to form a humanoid figure and bring him back for the next Fantastic Four or maybe have the Four appear in the upcoming Avengers movie.

Who knows…

By the way, I found this today.  I can’t believe the Washington Post actually printed this…

By the way, is there an email address for the site? I couldn’t find one…

Comments on this entry are closed.

Roku.com-The Little Black Box That Streams Thousands of Films! WordPress MU, WPMU and BuddyPress plugins, themes and support at WPMU DEV Thesis Theme for WordPress:  Options Galore and a Helpful Support Community
traffic stats