Comments on: Freedom In Iraq Advances

By: Dean Esmay

Dean Esmay — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:03:32 +0000

Wait. It’s not possible to train REAL Muslims to fight terrorism. We all know, terrorism is embedded in Islam, and the only way to fix it is to purge its holy books and/or make them all become Christians and/or rational Atheists. C’mon, ain’t that obvious by now?

(And before some idiot says "straw man," said idiot might want to ask me first to point to people who actually believe that shamefulÂ bullshit.)

By: Martin L. Shoemaker

Martin L. Shoemaker — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:47:54 +0000

Scott, it’s a selection bias. The stupid long-gone dead guys seldom get quoted (save by people trying to demonstrate what stupidity looks like,Â or by people who disagree that they’re stupid). Live guys and gals, stupid or smart, are speaking in real time. So the average live statement is automatically stupider, on average, than the average statement from a dead guy.

By: Scott Kirwin

Scott Kirwin — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:31:54 +0000

Nice Machiavelli quote. I’m a big fan of his.

I’m always amazed at how much smarter long-gone dead guys are over the living.

By: foobarista

foobarista — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:32:43 +0000

The Friedman comments are similar to early discussions that "new Iraq" needed a heroic foundational narrative.Â Some (ie, David Brooks) thought it should be done by contriving things such that the Iraqis could somehow "triumph" over the US, without us actually losing.Â

As it happened, AQ and the Iran-backed Sadrists nicely did it for us; this would be the first Iraqi state that beat back the millenia-old Persian nemesis, and AQ is equally presentable as a pack of foreign thugs and bandits that were defeated by Iraqi heroism.

So, now "new Iraq" has a heroic narrative that is not anti-American, and is actually true.

Karl Rove couldn’t have planned it any better.

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