Willow’s having a heated but fantastic discussion on torture. Please read it. (And put any comments or trackbacks in that thread and not here.)
By the way, I repeated an open offer in that thread. It’s still standing, and if anyone can arrange it please let me know. It doesn’t look like much fun at all, but if it helps the debate I’m quite willing. Standing up for what you believe in, even when it sucks, is something we should all be willing to do once in a while. (If it helps, I live in Michigan, quite near Selfridge.)
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