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	<title>Comments on: Roche To Suspend All HIV Research Activities</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/13/roche-to-suspend-all-hiv-research-activities/#comment-159662</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Senate just approved a $50 billion dollar package to fight AIDS in Africa.

I didn&#039;t see anything about them cutting funds for new drugs, or only buying the cheap off-patent ones with that money. Maybe I missed it somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Senate just approved a $50 billion dollar package to fight AIDS in Africa.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see anything about them cutting funds for new drugs, or only buying the cheap off-patent ones with that money. Maybe I missed it somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Better late than never?

&lt;/em&gt;Hah! Yes, I reckon, better late than never. 

But, what do we say to all the surviving family of folks who were poisoned and killed by AZT (cancer chemotherapy)Â over the past 27 years?

I guess we say the same thing to the all the survivors of folks in Africa, killed by malaria, because we wouldn&#039;t spray a little DDT.Â  The flip side of the same, stupidÂ  dogmatic coin. 

HankB
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Better late than never?</p>
<p></em>Hah! Yes, I reckon, better late than never. </p>
<p>But, what do we say to all the surviving family of folks who were poisoned and killed by AZT (cancer chemotherapy)Â over the past 27 years?</p>
<p>I guess we say the same thing to the all the survivors of folks in Africa, killed by malaria, because we wouldn&#8217;t spray a little DDT.Â  The flip side of the same, stupidÂ  dogmatic coin. </p>
<p>HankB</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/13/roche-to-suspend-all-hiv-research-activities/#comment-159627</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you see the massive pain to pride that&#039;s hitting some folks now? 

I&#039;m mildly sympathetic to a few of them, who meant well. But it&#039;s hard not to feel a growing contempt for the sneering know-it-alls and those who worked so hard to destroy the reputations and even the careers of the skeptics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you see the massive pain to pride that&#8217;s hitting some folks now? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m mildly sympathetic to a few of them, who meant well. But it&#8217;s hard not to feel a growing contempt for the sneering know-it-alls and those who worked so hard to destroy the reputations and even the careers of the skeptics.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D.</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/13/roche-to-suspend-all-hiv-research-activities/#comment-159622</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...27 years later the WHO is saying &quot;never mind&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Better late than never?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;27 years later the WHO is saying &quot;never mind&quot;.</p></blockquote>
<p> Better late than never?</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McKiernan,

Are you addressing moi? 

The whole thing was a farce. In 1981, You had a concentrated subset of young gay men (not representative of the gay community) who were partying and poisoning their bodies with drugs; the media and government Â ginned up fears that a new virus (came from Mars? Chimpanzees?) was gonna spread like wildfire into the general population toÂ kill us all, unless we wore condoms; 27 years later the WHO is saying &quot;never mind&quot;.

HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McKiernan,</p>
<p>Are you addressing moi? </p>
<p>The whole thing was a farce. In 1981, You had a concentrated subset of young gay men (not representative of the gay community) who were partying and poisoning their bodies with drugs; the media and government Â ginned up fears that a new virus (came from Mars? Chimpanzees?) was gonna spread like wildfire into the general population toÂ kill us all, unless we wore condoms; 27 years later the WHO is saying &quot;never mind&quot;.</p>
<p>HB</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh McK. You sure are a tricky guy. Which part did you not understand, the part about the epidemiologist who&#039;s spent his life fighting the disease, or the part about how he&#039;s admitted that it was never the threat it was made out to be and that resources and public health campaigns were massively misdirected? Or is it the word &quot;farce&quot; you&#039;re having trouble understanding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh McK. You sure are a tricky guy. Which part did you not understand, the part about the epidemiologist who&#8217;s spent his life fighting the disease, or the part about how he&#8217;s admitted that it was never the threat it was made out to be and that resources and public health campaigns were massively misdirected? Or is it the word &quot;farce&quot; you&#8217;re having trouble understanding?</p>
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		<title>By: Mc Kiernan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mc Kiernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my God, Hank,

You&#039;re quoting Dr De Cock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading the battle against the disease... ummh, okay,  which one ?

Whatever.

Okay, I&#039;ll peel thru the propaganda.

So what part is the farce, Hank ?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God, Hank,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re quoting Dr De Cock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading the battle against the disease&#8230; ummh, okay,  which one ?</p>
<p>Whatever.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll peel thru the propaganda.</p>
<p>So what part is the farce, Hank ?</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important article last month from London:

Â &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/threat-of-world-aids-pandemic-among-heterosexuals-is-over-report-admits-842478.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Threat of AIDS Pandemic among Heterosexuals is over, Report Admits&lt;/a&gt;

By Jeremy Laurance

&lt;!--proximic_content_on--&gt;&lt;em&gt;A quarter of a century after the outbreak of Aids, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has accepted that the threat of a global heterosexual pandemic has disappeared.
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&lt;em&gt;In the first official admission that the universal prevention strategy promoted by the major Aids organisations may have been misdirected, Kevin de Cock, the head of the WHO&#039;s department of HIV/Aids said there will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population outside Africa.&lt;/em&gt; 

Once you peel thru the propaganda, you realize the whole thing is a farce.

HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important article last month from London:</p>
<p>Â <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/threat-of-world-aids-pandemic-among-heterosexuals-is-over-report-admits-842478.html" rel="nofollow">Threat of AIDS Pandemic among Heterosexuals is over, Report Admits</a></p>
<p>By Jeremy Laurance</p>
<p><!--proximic_content_on--><em>A quarter of a century after the outbreak of Aids, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has accepted that the threat of a global heterosexual pandemic has disappeared.<br />
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<em>In the first official admission that the universal prevention strategy promoted by the major Aids organisations may have been misdirected, Kevin de Cock, the head of the WHO&#8217;s department of HIV/Aids said there will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population outside Africa.</em> </p>
<p>Once you peel thru the propaganda, you realize the whole thing is a farce.</p>
<p>HB</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/13/roche-to-suspend-all-hiv-research-activities/#comment-159608</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikeca: Yeah, apparently all the current drugs are so good no one can come up with anything better that&#039;s worth any more money, even with programs that give billions for these drugs already annually. Okay then. 

McKiernan: Nope, Rebecca got her PhD in what was the hot area of AIDS research in the field, mathematical modeling of the virus and its behavior. After years on it, and publishing three papers on it, she quit as she realized none of it made any damned sense. Since her PhD was in mathematical biology, she went into teaching math because mathematical biological modeling of HIV is now dead--it came up with nothing much of use.

But you keep on with those over arching generalizations. They&#039;re very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikeca: Yeah, apparently all the current drugs are so good no one can come up with anything better that&#8217;s worth any more money, even with programs that give billions for these drugs already annually. Okay then. </p>
<p>McKiernan: Nope, Rebecca got her PhD in what was the hot area of AIDS research in the field, mathematical modeling of the virus and its behavior. After years on it, and publishing three papers on it, she quit as she realized none of it made any damned sense. Since her PhD was in mathematical biology, she went into teaching math because mathematical biological modeling of HIV is now dead&#8211;it came up with nothing much of use.</p>
<p>But you keep on with those over arching generalizations. They&#8217;re very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess 24 years is long enough for a snipe hunt.

That&#039;s what ex-discoverer of the AIDS virus, Robert Gallo, and Health Secretary Margaret Heckler sent the scientific community on back in 1984 with the announcement that HIV causes AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess 24 years is long enough for a snipe hunt.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what ex-discoverer of the AIDS virus, Robert Gallo, and Health Secretary Margaret Heckler sent the scientific community on back in 1984 with the announcement that HIV causes AIDS.</p>
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