Comments on: A Fair Trade? http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:24:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159786 Dean Esmay Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:13:36 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159786 It is interesting to note that the average Israeli tends to be considerably less hawkish than American Jews and other friends of Israel in America. Possibly because they have to live there. It is interesting to note that the average Israeli tends to be considerably less hawkish than American Jews and other friends of Israel in America. Possibly because they have to live there.

]]> By: jrogge http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159746 jrogge Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:55:32 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159746 Is a proper burial incredibly important in their culture? I am not sure if it is, but the only reason I could see them making such a trade would be to ensure they get their proper rights. In any case if they were dead I can't see why else Israel wouldn't have told them to get bent. Is a proper burial incredibly important in their culture? I am not sure if it is, but the only reason I could see them making such a trade would be to ensure they get their proper rights. In any case if they were dead I can’t see why else Israel wouldn’t have told them to get bent.

]]> By: Mark Shaw http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159743 Mark Shaw Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:28 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159743 Read <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008710" rel="nofollow">this</a> description of Kuntar's crime.  First, however, remove all throwable objects from your immediate area. A start at a fair trade <strong>might </strong>be returning the terrorists in the same condition as the Israeli soldiers. Gaah. Read this description of Kuntar’s crime.  First, however, remove all throwable objects from your immediate area.

A start at a fair trade might be returning the terrorists in the same condition as the Israeli soldiers.

Gaah.

]]> By: Paul S. http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159742 Paul S. Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:47:56 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159742 The picture of the widow grieving on the front page of the Chi Trib this morning was just heartbreaking. Hard to see how this won't encourage more hostage taking, apparently without need to even keep them alive. Shit, the Hez can just start robbing graves and trading them for live prisoners it seems. The picture of the widow grieving on the front page of the Chi Trib this morning was just heartbreaking.

Hard to see how this won’t encourage more hostage taking, apparently without need to even keep them alive.

Shit, the Hez can just start robbing graves and trading them for live prisoners it seems.

]]> By: Dave Schuler http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159740 Dave Schuler Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:04:54 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159740 Israel is a different country from the United States with its own customs, interests, and politics.  This trade wasn't a solo act by the unpopular Olmert government—there was substantial domestic political pressure on the government to do this. Israel is a different country from the United States with its own customs, interests, and politics.  This trade wasn’t a solo act by the unpopular Olmert government&mdash;there was substantial domestic political pressure on the government to do this.

]]> By: Scott Kirwin http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159723 Scott Kirwin Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:44:32 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159723 <p>These exchanges are extremely controversial in Israel. Check out <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1215330981073&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">this op-ed</a> in the Jerusalem Post. Trading live prisoners for dead ones discourages Israel's enemies from keeping their POWs alive. It also tends to bite Israel back in the end. </p><li><em>Abbas ibn Muhammad Alsayd, who after being released in 1996 was involved in the perpetration of three attacks in Netanya including the Park Hotel Passover attack on March 27, 2002, in which 30 people were murdered and 155 wounded. </em> </li><li><em>Iyad Sawalha, who was released pursuant to the Wye Agreement in 1998 and was responsible for the June 5, 2002, bus bombing at the Megiddo junction, murdering 17 people and wounding 42. </em> </li><li><em>Ramez Sali Abu Salmim, who detonated himself in Jerusalem's Café Hillel on September 9, 2003, just seven months after his release, murdering seven people and wounding over 50. </em></li><p> The Israelis should have machine gunned their captives - especially Sami Kutnar - and traded their bodies for the dead Israelis. That would have at least prevented them from striking in the future.</p> These exchanges are extremely controversial in Israel. Check out this op-ed in the Jerusalem Post. Trading live prisoners for dead ones discourages Israel’s enemies from keeping their POWs alive. It also tends to bite Israel back in the end.

  • Abbas ibn Muhammad Alsayd, who after being released in 1996 was involved in the perpetration of three attacks in Netanya including the Park Hotel Passover attack on March 27, 2002, in which 30 people were murdered and 155 wounded.
  • Iyad Sawalha, who was released pursuant to the Wye Agreement in 1998 and was responsible for the June 5, 2002, bus bombing at the Megiddo junction, murdering 17 people and wounding 42.
  • Ramez Sali Abu Salmim, who detonated himself in Jerusalem’s Café Hillel on September 9, 2003, just seven months after his release, murdering seven people and wounding over 50.

    • The Israelis should have machine gunned their captives – especially Sami Kutnar – and traded their bodies for the dead Israelis. That would have at least prevented them from striking in the future.

    ]]>         By: Kevin D. http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159720 Kevin D. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:31:34 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159720 Yeah, Kutnar is a monster. Yeah, Kutnar is a monster.

    ]]>         By: Naftali http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159717 Naftali Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:09:51 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159717 Dean, Google "sami kutnar". Or better yet, go to israelmatzav.blogspot.com Dean,

    Google “sami kutnar”. Or better yet, go to israelmatzav.blogspot.com

    ]]>         By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159715 Dean Esmay Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:06:21 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159715 Oh, I read it but I didn't see that. Oh, I read it but I didn’t see that.

    ]]>         By: Kevin D. http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159713 Kevin D. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:07:33 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/16/a-fair-trade/#comment-159713 Dean, The article calls the five terrorists.  So, that's what I went with. John, "Just wondering if they were executed or tortured to death in captivity or something disgusting like that." I can't find it but I know I read somewhere that identification of the bodies took so long because they were mutilated. Dean,

    The article calls the five terrorists.  So, that’s what I went with.

    John,

    “Just wondering if they were executed or tortured to death in captivity or something disgusting like that.”

    I can’t find it but I know I read somewhere that identification of the bodies took so long because they were mutilated.

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