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		<title>By: DanielH</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160156</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I just realized that Caplan essentially made the point I made aboveÂ on education: &quot;How many times have you heard an economist say that &#039;education is a public good,&#039; when at most he means that &#039;education has positive externalities&#039;?&quot;

But my biggest problem with his suggestion is just a practical one.Â  MuchÂ of the point of education is to prepare students to be able to learn from and react to &quot;knowledge&quot; they encounter outside of school.Â  Since the discussion of &quot;public goods&quot; is very prevalent in economics and policy research, students should be taught the meaning of the term.Â  A better proposal, similar to Caplan&#039;s, would be to teach students that &quot;non-rival&quot; = &quot;zeroÂ marginal cost&quot; and that &quot;non-excludable&quot; = &quot;positive externalities&quot;.Â  That way, they will stillÂ know what people mean when they say &quot;public good&quot;, but they will have a fuller understanding of that class of goods, and be able to understand better how they differ and relate to &quot;regular&quot; private goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I just realized that Caplan essentially made the point I made aboveÂ on education: &quot;How many times have you heard an economist say that &#8216;education is a public good,&#8217; when at most he means that &#8216;education has positive externalities&#8217;?&quot;</p>
<p>But my biggest problem with his suggestion is just a practical one.Â  MuchÂ of the point of education is to prepare students to be able to learn from and react to &quot;knowledge&quot; they encounter outside of school.Â  Since the discussion of &quot;public goods&quot; is very prevalent in economics and policy research, students should be taught the meaning of the term.Â  A better proposal, similar to Caplan&#8217;s, would be to teach students that &quot;non-rival&quot; = &quot;zeroÂ marginal cost&quot; and that &quot;non-excludable&quot; = &quot;positive externalities&quot;.Â  That way, they will stillÂ know what people mean when they say &quot;public good&quot;, but they will have a fuller understanding of that class of goods, and be able to understand better how they differ and relate to &quot;regular&quot; private goods.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielH</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160154</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On education -- it is certainly not a pure public good, but unlikeÂ with an apple, there are some positive externalities associated with &quot;consuming&quot; education.Â  For instance, to the extent that someone is educated to be a good and moral citizen of his or her state/community -- that benefitsÂ everyone in that state or community.Â  That is just to say thatÂ the social benefit from one&#039;s education (sum of the private gain of that individual plus all the gains to others from that individual&#039;s education) is greater than the private benefit from one&#039;s education.Â  ThisÂ show thats there is a private-public goods spectrum, and that, further, there will be arguments for public provision of goods falling somewhere in the middle of that spectrum.Â  Whether those arguments are good or not, however,Â depends on the relative efficiency of public vs. private provision of those goods.Â  But often this question cannot be answered a priori, which is why I think it is good that different countries try different approaches to provision of public and quasi-public goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On education &#8212; it is certainly not a pure public good, but unlikeÂ with an apple, there are some positive externalities associated with &quot;consuming&quot; education.Â  For instance, to the extent that someone is educated to be a good and moral citizen of his or her state/community &#8212; that benefitsÂ everyone in that state or community.Â  That is just to say thatÂ the social benefit from one&#8217;s education (sum of the private gain of that individual plus all the gains to others from that individual&#8217;s education) is greater than the private benefit from one&#8217;s education.Â  ThisÂ show thats there is a private-public goods spectrum, and that, further, there will be arguments for public provision of goods falling somewhere in the middle of that spectrum.Â  Whether those arguments are good or not, however,Â depends on the relative efficiency of public vs. private provision of those goods.Â  But often this question cannot be answered a priori, which is why I think it is good that different countries try different approaches to provision of public and quasi-public goods.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielH</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160152</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thereâ€™s a word for people who donâ€™t want the government to do anything, not even define and enforce property rights. The word is &quot;anarchist&quot;, not &quot;libertarian&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For what it&#039;s worth,Â Caplan is a self-professed anarchist.Â Â See, for instance, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/Cowen&quot;&gt;this article of his on the private provision of law&lt;/a&gt;.Â  I don&#039;t agree with his conclusions, but I do think he has at least thought through a number of the objections Dean has raised.Â  

Caplan may also call himself libertarian --Â I&#039;m not sure.Â  Often libertarians include both anarchism and &quot;minarchism&quot; as sub-classes of libertarianism.Â  By the way, another famous libertarian-anarchist is David Friedman, Milton&#039;s son.</description>
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<p>For what it&#8217;s worth,Â Caplan is a self-professed anarchist.Â Â See, for instance, <a href="http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/Cowen">this article of his on the private provision of law</a>.Â  I don&#8217;t agree with his conclusions, but I do think he has at least thought through a number of the objections Dean has raised.Â  </p>
<p>Caplan may also call himself libertarian &#8211;Â I&#8217;m not sure.Â  Often libertarians include both anarchism and &quot;minarchism&quot; as sub-classes of libertarianism.Â  By the way, another famous libertarian-anarchist is David Friedman, Milton&#8217;s son.</p>
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		<title>By: Maniakes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160139</link>
		<dc:creator>Maniakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jim Glass, back in the comments section of Caplan&#039;s post, has the right idea: drop the term &quot;public goods&quot;, and start referring to things that are nonexcludable and nonrival as &quot;bartfizzles&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jim Glass, back in the comments section of Caplan&#8217;s post, has the right idea: drop the term &quot;public goods&quot;, and start referring to things that are nonexcludable and nonrival as &quot;bartfizzles&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maniakes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160138</link>
		<dc:creator>Maniakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vaguely recall seeing a British actor (I think it was Jon Pertwee) being interviewed during a PBS pledge-drive several years ago, talking about how the US is unique in having largely donation-funded public television, while just about every other country had purely tax-funded public television. If my memory is accurate, that implies the BBC-style solution is very common.

I think what you&#039;re thinking of as a public good is any good which is owned by the public (either formally owned by the government; or no formal ownership, leaving usage open to any member of the public), which makes sense given the literal implicaitons of the termand is consistant with colloquial usage of the term. The economic term for a good owned by the public is a &quot;commons&quot; (as in &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Tragedy of the Commons&lt;/a&gt;&quot;). It gets more confusing, since there&#039;s considerable overlap between the concepts of commons and public goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vaguely recall seeing a British actor (I think it was Jon Pertwee) being interviewed during a PBS pledge-drive several years ago, talking about how the US is unique in having largely donation-funded public television, while just about every other country had purely tax-funded public television. If my memory is accurate, that implies the BBC-style solution is very common.</p>
<p>I think what you&#8217;re thinking of as a public good is any good which is owned by the public (either formally owned by the government; or no formal ownership, leaving usage open to any member of the public), which makes sense given the literal implicaitons of the termand is consistant with colloquial usage of the term. The economic term for a good owned by the public is a &quot;commons&quot; (as in &quot;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons" rel="nofollow">The Tragedy of the Commons</a>&quot;). It gets more confusing, since there&#8217;s considerable overlap between the concepts of commons and public goods.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160137</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting, by the way, that the British (and I&#039;m sure other countries, I only know of it among the British but I imagine they&#039;re not alone) is that they started by taxing people for their televisions and radios, which is still how they mostly pay for the BBC. But they also decided at some point to allow private competitors in that market too, which would sink or swim on their own merits. It seems to have worked out quite well for them, the BBC is still very popular but there&#039;s lots of non-BBC content to choose from too.

Anyway, I think I myself am having a little trouble with the meaning of the term &quot;public good&quot; which may be part of why I&#039;m arguing, and may also relate to the contention that we should use different words because &quot;public good&quot; is confusing even to people who&#039;ve read up on economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting, by the way, that the British (and I&#8217;m sure other countries, I only know of it among the British but I imagine they&#8217;re not alone) is that they started by taxing people for their televisions and radios, which is still how they mostly pay for the BBC. But they also decided at some point to allow private competitors in that market too, which would sink or swim on their own merits. It seems to have worked out quite well for them, the BBC is still very popular but there&#8217;s lots of non-BBC content to choose from too.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think I myself am having a little trouble with the meaning of the term &quot;public good&quot; which may be part of why I&#8217;m arguing, and may also relate to the contention that we should use different words because &quot;public good&quot; is confusing even to people who&#8217;ve read up on economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maniakes: Well that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maniakes: Well that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Public Goods &#124;</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160126</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Goods &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Goods        Maniakes at Dean&#8217;s World describes &#8220;public goods.&#8221; In the comments he and Dean get into whether the airwaves fit the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Public Goods &#187; The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160107</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Goods &#187; The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Dean&#8217;s World describes &#8220;public goods.&#8221; In the comments he and Dean get into whether the airwaves fit the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maniakes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/07/25/public-goods/#comment-160101</link>
		<dc:creator>Maniakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The airwaves aren&#039;t a public good because nobody makes the airwaves. They just are, the same way the oceans, rivers, and land just exist. In order to make them usable, the government defines and enforces rules to allow people to use them without stepping on each other&#039;s toes. Defining and enforcing these rules is indeed a public good, although it&#039;s often treated as a special case because having those rules defined and enforced (usually by the government, although small communities may be able to get away with doing it by consensus and social pressure) is generally considered to be a necessary precondition for a market economy (although anarcho-capitalists disagree, arguing that hiring thugs to beat people up if they take your pizza or jam your broadcasts is a viable solution).

The problem I was examining in my original post was how content winds up being broadcast on the airwaves once broadcast rights are assigned. We can examine that question narrowly, independently of the question of how to allocate broadcast rights (whether by FCC-style licensing, by auctioning or homesteading property rights to broadcast bands, or through another method).

So let&#039;s say that in recognition of my services to mankind, I am created the Baron of 42.1 FM. I have the exclusive right to broadcast on 42.1 FM in the United States, but do I want to? Buying or making content takes time and effort, and broadcasting equipment isn&#039;t free. I need some revenue source in order to make broadcasting economically viable, and that&#039;s a tricky issue because having content broadcasts on 42.1 FM is a public good.

Maybe I can get the government to tax every potential listener to pay my expenses -- this is the classic solution to the public goods problem.

Maybe there&#039;s someone whose private benefits are so high that he&#039;s willing to pay the entire costs himself and let everyone else freeload. E.g. Warren Buffett pays me $1 million/year to play his favorite songs 24/7 so he doesn&#039;t have to worry about losing his iPod.

Maybe I&#039;m a philanthropist who is willing to subsidize the effort out of the goodness of my heart.

Or maybe I figure out a clever way to sell a private good associated that piggybacks on theÂ broadcast (such as advertising) or to make theÂ broadcast excludable (through encryption).

My point being that while government provision of public goods is a widely accepted solution to the public goods problem, and it&#039;s often the best solution, it isn&#039;t necessarily the only viable solution when the public goods problem crops up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airwaves aren&#8217;t a public good because nobody makes the airwaves. They just are, the same way the oceans, rivers, and land just exist. In order to make them usable, the government defines and enforces rules to allow people to use them without stepping on each other&#8217;s toes. Defining and enforcing these rules is indeed a public good, although it&#8217;s often treated as a special case because having those rules defined and enforced (usually by the government, although small communities may be able to get away with doing it by consensus and social pressure) is generally considered to be a necessary precondition for a market economy (although anarcho-capitalists disagree, arguing that hiring thugs to beat people up if they take your pizza or jam your broadcasts is a viable solution).</p>
<p>The problem I was examining in my original post was how content winds up being broadcast on the airwaves once broadcast rights are assigned. We can examine that question narrowly, independently of the question of how to allocate broadcast rights (whether by FCC-style licensing, by auctioning or homesteading property rights to broadcast bands, or through another method).</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s say that in recognition of my services to mankind, I am created the Baron of 42.1 FM. I have the exclusive right to broadcast on 42.1 FM in the United States, but do I want to? Buying or making content takes time and effort, and broadcasting equipment isn&#8217;t free. I need some revenue source in order to make broadcasting economically viable, and that&#8217;s a tricky issue because having content broadcasts on 42.1 FM is a public good.</p>
<p>Maybe I can get the government to tax every potential listener to pay my expenses &#8212; this is the classic solution to the public goods problem.</p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s someone whose private benefits are so high that he&#8217;s willing to pay the entire costs himself and let everyone else freeload. E.g. Warren Buffett pays me $1 million/year to play his favorite songs 24/7 so he doesn&#8217;t have to worry about losing his iPod.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a philanthropist who is willing to subsidize the effort out of the goodness of my heart.</p>
<p>Or maybe I figure out a clever way to sell a private good associated that piggybacks on theÂ broadcast (such as advertising) or to make theÂ broadcast excludable (through encryption).</p>
<p>My point being that while government provision of public goods is a widely accepted solution to the public goods problem, and it&#8217;s often the best solution, it isn&#8217;t necessarily the only viable solution when the public goods problem crops up.</p>
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