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		<title>By: The awesomely stupendous power of tire inflation &#171; Internet Scofflaw</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160567</link>
		<dc:creator>The awesomely stupendous power of tire inflation &#171; Internet Scofflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (8/7): Time tries to cover for Obama.Â  Hilarity ensues.Â  (Via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160562</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaveS, I agree, which is why I &lt;a href=&quot;http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/&quot;&gt;argued&lt;/a&gt; that we should indeed exclude ANWR from the comparison.  It&#039;s a ridiculous claim, either way - made all the more ridiculous by the fact that it assumes we are all driving around on flat tires now.

&lt;em&gt;Xrlq&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deflated Reality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveS, I agree, which is why I <a href="http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/">argued</a> that we should indeed exclude ANWR from the comparison.  It&#8217;s a ridiculous claim, either way &#8211; made all the more ridiculous by the fact that it assumes we are all driving around on flat tires now.</p>
<p><em>Xrlq&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/' rel="nofollow">Deflated Reality</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160561</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has said that he is &quot;open&quot; to drilling in ANWR. So it should remain in the calculation.

The story here isn&#039;t the monumentally naive and ignorant statement Obama made, geez people should be used to THAT by now, the story here is the raving sycophantic press that leaps to defend him even if it means bending the facts so far that they are indistinguishable from fantasy. The appropriate reaction to Obama&#039;s statement is amused contempt, which is exactly what McCain&#039;s team offered. Good for them.

The best indication of how idiotic Obama looks on energy policy is how many people listen to Paris Hilton&#039;s &quot;ad&quot; and say &quot;You know, that actually makes more sense than Obama&#039;s&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=3956&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Angry liberals?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has said that he is &quot;open&quot; to drilling in ANWR. So it should remain in the calculation.</p>
<p>The story here isn&#8217;t the monumentally naive and ignorant statement Obama made, geez people should be used to THAT by now, the story here is the raving sycophantic press that leaps to defend him even if it means bending the facts so far that they are indistinguishable from fantasy. The appropriate reaction to Obama&#8217;s statement is amused contempt, which is exactly what McCain&#8217;s team offered. Good for them.</p>
<p>The best indication of how idiotic Obama looks on energy policy is how many people listen to Paris Hilton&#8217;s &#8220;ad&#8221; and say &#8220;You know, that actually makes more sense than Obama&#8217;s&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=3956' rel="nofollow">Angry liberals?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Drilling Is Better Than Inflating Tires &#171; Tai-Chi Policy</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160557</link>
		<dc:creator>Drilling Is Better Than Inflating Tires &#171; Tai-Chi Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] August 7, 2008 Posted by taoist in Democrats, Energy, Obama, Oil, Politics.  trackback  Just do the math for yourself. Meanwhile, while Obama takes the typical populist stance against oil companies, why don&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] August 7, 2008 Posted by taoist in Democrats, Energy, Obama, Oil, Politics.  trackback  Just do the math for yourself. Meanwhile, while Obama takes the typical populist stance against oil companies, why don&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DaveS</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160549</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also might be a bit unfair to include ANWR in the &quot;real&quot; numbers, because McCain is opposed to drilling in ANWR, and it is McCain&#039;s desire to drill which would have allegedly been offset by airing up your tires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also might be a bit unfair to include ANWR in the &quot;real&quot; numbers, because McCain is opposed to drilling in ANWR, and it is McCain&#8217;s desire to drill which would have allegedly been offset by airing up your tires.</p>
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		<title>By: MSimon</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160548</link>
		<dc:creator>MSimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

You have been &#039;lanched. Congrats.

The oil companies have leases on 68 million acres on which they are not drilling (well that is the figure in the news).

Of course what if there is no oil on those acres? Or what if it is unprofitable due to the size of the reservoirs or other factors? One possibility - deep sea rigs are in short supply due to intense offshore drilling activity. More rigs would be built if the reservoirs are especially profitable and those very profitable reservoirs are probably not in those 68 million acres.

The idea that oil companies are screwing themselves makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You have been &#8216;lanched. Congrats.</p>
<p>The oil companies have leases on 68 million acres on which they are not drilling (well that is the figure in the news).</p>
<p>Of course what if there is no oil on those acres? Or what if it is unprofitable due to the size of the reservoirs or other factors? One possibility &#8211; deep sea rigs are in short supply due to intense offshore drilling activity. More rigs would be built if the reservoirs are especially profitable and those very profitable reservoirs are probably not in those 68 million acres.</p>
<p>The idea that oil companies are screwing themselves makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160538</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Wiki link is here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States#Total_number_of_vehicles&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States#Total_number_of_vehicles&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Wiki link is here:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States#Total_number_of_vehicles" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States#Total_number_of_vehicles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie_Eklund</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160537</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie_Eklund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had read that the 3% savings actually meant that vehicles with properly inflated tires would improve their gas mileage by 3%. In other words, a car that is getting 30 mpg with underinflated tires would get 31 mpg if the tires were properly inflated.

Is that the same thing as saving, or wasting, 3% of the 20 million barrels the US uses every day? I don&#039;t think that it is. It strikes me that the fuel wasted due to underinflation would be a much smaller amount than that, since it&#039;s a 3% impact on gas mileage rather than oil consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had read that the 3% savings actually meant that vehicles with properly inflated tires would improve their gas mileage by 3%. In other words, a car that is getting 30 mpg with underinflated tires would get 31 mpg if the tires were properly inflated.</p>
<p>Is that the same thing as saving, or wasting, 3% of the 20 million barrels the US uses every day? I don&#8217;t think that it is. It strikes me that the fuel wasted due to underinflation would be a much smaller amount than that, since it&#8217;s a 3% impact on gas mileage rather than oil consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160536</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, Obama&#039;s tire inflation and tune up solution has one big problem. The savings calculations are based on a static solution to a dynamic problem. Obama&#039;s oil savings solution relies on the thinking thatÂ all vehicles to run in tip top fashion 24/7 and it isÂ downright unrealistic. If one were to imagine (because I canâ€™t show a graphic here) at Obamaâ€™s vehicle maintenance recommendations framed graphically to see the static distribution of the overall (all energy saving vehicle tips) state of US vehicle maintenance condition, one would see a bell curve. Breaking out each savingsÂ tip would also show bell curves.

These curves would not reflect the spectrum of maintenance attitudes of owners as much as reflect the dynamic cycle of maintenance. There will always be an x% of vehicles at the y% of out-of-tune vehicles, dirty air filters, or underinflated tires. Each of Obama maintenance tips, of course, have a different elasticity for improvement which should be kept in mind. Tire inflation is a simple item to control, rather unlike the elasticity of keeping your vehicle in tune which is much more dependent on schedule and cost, than it is on monitoring how far awhack it is from optimum.

We might be able, via moderate improvement in attention, to squeeze change the shape of the curve towards more efficiency, if it could be shown that the current level of attention significantly below a reasonable par now, but I think the degree to which the gallon or barrel savings numbers are bantied is way in excess of what could or can be effected.

Take for instance the Obama tire inflation recommendation. Realize that as soon as you leave the air pump and pull out of the gas station, your tires are on a downward spiral towards significant underinflation. It may be a tiny valve stem leak, or the pothole and sunken manhole cover you hit on the way home and the six you hit to and from work everyday. If you check your tires every three months, finding at least one to fit the &quot;significant&quot; category, you&#039;re part of the Obama total gas saving solution, but that does not make you the answer to the full bbls per day savings solution, and tomorrow when your neighbor checks hers, she will not be either. In reality, if everyone increased their attention by a day, we would saving z bbls per day or if we caughtÂ by sight the signifcantly underinflated tire one day earlier than we used to, it would save some minute fraction of bbls/day. But on the whole I don&#039;t think we&#039;d be saving the amount that&#039;s becoming the meme.

And note, as for the statistic on number of vehicles with underinflated tires suggests, only a fraction, 3%, of passenger cars estimated, via the study, to have all four tires underinflated. Remember that, ballparking, the 3% savings is when all four tires are underinflated, not one. Back to the study -- 13% of passenger vehicles are estimated to have two or more tires significantly underinflated. This means that 87% of vehicles are estimted to have only one tire 8 psi or more below recommended. Now it is likely that the many of those tires on those 87% of vehicles having only one probably have another three underinflated tires, itâ€™s just that those three are 4, 5 and 6 below. but a significant number probably only have one. In any event, what exactly is the inefficiency percentage for those, because it is certainly way below the 3% applied to calculate national bbls/day savings?

At this point, Iâ€™ll note two things. First, a simple kicking up of all significantly underinflated tires to recommended will not give provide the savings calculated. On the other hand, too, the attention put on this subject will probably increase the ballparked savingsÂ much more, for a short period of time, asÂ we all scambleÂ to check and pump up our 1, 2, or 3 psi underinflated tires. We might actually get the amount estimated for a week or a month, but the regimen to maintain this effort can likely over the long haul be moved from something like checking every two months rather than every three, meaning the savings is probably going to be much less than the static calculation.

Take the tune-up recommendation through the same review as I did for tires and I think youâ€™ll realize that, in the dynamic view and because of the significant cost and time associated with both monitoring and servicing, the bbls/day savings thrown about is much more over estimated. Keep in mind not the 100,000 miles before service allowance you mention is for the newer models, butÂ as, according to wiki, age of US vehicles range from &quot;38.3% were older than ten years, 22.3% were between seven and ten years old, 25.8% were between three and six years old and 13.5% were less than two years old.&quot; It may be some time before 100,000 is the norm and that higher standard only helps with some of that 4%Â efficiency improvements. 

I think the overall point is that inÂ the set called national car operation, 100% is the maximum efficiency and it can never be attained, only approached, so the questions is what, like unemployment, is the reasonably acceptable national inefficiency,Â where are we in comparison to that, and what at what cost can it be improved voluntarily and also by tech improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, Obama&#8217;s tire inflation and tune up solution has one big problem. The savings calculations are based on a static solution to a dynamic problem. Obama&#8217;s oil savings solution relies on the thinking thatÂ all vehicles to run in tip top fashion 24/7 and it isÂ downright unrealistic. If one were to imagine (because I canâ€™t show a graphic here) at Obamaâ€™s vehicle maintenance recommendations framed graphically to see the static distribution of the overall (all energy saving vehicle tips) state of US vehicle maintenance condition, one would see a bell curve. Breaking out each savingsÂ tip would also show bell curves.</p>
<p>These curves would not reflect the spectrum of maintenance attitudes of owners as much as reflect the dynamic cycle of maintenance. There will always be an x% of vehicles at the y% of out-of-tune vehicles, dirty air filters, or underinflated tires. Each of Obama maintenance tips, of course, have a different elasticity for improvement which should be kept in mind. Tire inflation is a simple item to control, rather unlike the elasticity of keeping your vehicle in tune which is much more dependent on schedule and cost, than it is on monitoring how far awhack it is from optimum.</p>
<p>We might be able, via moderate improvement in attention, to squeeze change the shape of the curve towards more efficiency, if it could be shown that the current level of attention significantly below a reasonable par now, but I think the degree to which the gallon or barrel savings numbers are bantied is way in excess of what could or can be effected.</p>
<p>Take for instance the Obama tire inflation recommendation. Realize that as soon as you leave the air pump and pull out of the gas station, your tires are on a downward spiral towards significant underinflation. It may be a tiny valve stem leak, or the pothole and sunken manhole cover you hit on the way home and the six you hit to and from work everyday. If you check your tires every three months, finding at least one to fit the &quot;significant&quot; category, you&#8217;re part of the Obama total gas saving solution, but that does not make you the answer to the full bbls per day savings solution, and tomorrow when your neighbor checks hers, she will not be either. In reality, if everyone increased their attention by a day, we would saving z bbls per day or if we caughtÂ by sight the signifcantly underinflated tire one day earlier than we used to, it would save some minute fraction of bbls/day. But on the whole I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d be saving the amount that&#8217;s becoming the meme.</p>
<p>And note, as for the statistic on number of vehicles with underinflated tires suggests, only a fraction, 3%, of passenger cars estimated, via the study, to have all four tires underinflated. Remember that, ballparking, the 3% savings is when all four tires are underinflated, not one. Back to the study &#8212; 13% of passenger vehicles are estimated to have two or more tires significantly underinflated. This means that 87% of vehicles are estimted to have only one tire 8 psi or more below recommended. Now it is likely that the many of those tires on those 87% of vehicles having only one probably have another three underinflated tires, itâ€™s just that those three are 4, 5 and 6 below. but a significant number probably only have one. In any event, what exactly is the inefficiency percentage for those, because it is certainly way below the 3% applied to calculate national bbls/day savings?</p>
<p>At this point, Iâ€™ll note two things. First, a simple kicking up of all significantly underinflated tires to recommended will not give provide the savings calculated. On the other hand, too, the attention put on this subject will probably increase the ballparked savingsÂ much more, for a short period of time, asÂ we all scambleÂ to check and pump up our 1, 2, or 3 psi underinflated tires. We might actually get the amount estimated for a week or a month, but the regimen to maintain this effort can likely over the long haul be moved from something like checking every two months rather than every three, meaning the savings is probably going to be much less than the static calculation.</p>
<p>Take the tune-up recommendation through the same review as I did for tires and I think youâ€™ll realize that, in the dynamic view and because of the significant cost and time associated with both monitoring and servicing, the bbls/day savings thrown about is much more over estimated. Keep in mind not the 100,000 miles before service allowance you mention is for the newer models, butÂ as, according to wiki, age of US vehicles range from &quot;38.3% were older than ten years, 22.3% were between seven and ten years old, 25.8% were between three and six years old and 13.5% were less than two years old.&quot; It may be some time before 100,000 is the norm and that higher standard only helps with some of that 4%Â efficiency improvements. </p>
<p>I think the overall point is that inÂ the set called national car operation, 100% is the maximum efficiency and it can never be attained, only approached, so the questions is what, like unemployment, is the reasonably acceptable national inefficiency,Â where are we in comparison to that, and what at what cost can it be improved voluntarily and also by tech improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/08/04/inflated-claims/#comment-160535</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt; defense was lame, but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/inflate_your_tires_bush_41_ene.html&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Chicago Tribune&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has gone one better/worse,Â claiming thatÂ the Bush-41 AdministrationÂ had said &quot;the same thing&quot; in aÂ 1990 PSAÂ that said proper tire inflation could save a paltry 50,000 barrels a day.Â  Apparently, numbers don&#039;t mean a thing; all that matters is thatÂ Obama said proper tire inflation could save &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; oil, and golly gee,Â someoneÂ in a past Republican administration said that, too.

At this rate, it&#039;s just a matter of time beforeÂ Obama announces that an apple a day can extend your life expectancy by 200 years, only to haveÂ these media hacks claim he was right because some obscure bureaucrat in the Eisenhower AdministrationÂ once saidÂ apples are good for you.

&lt;em&gt;Xrlq&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deflated Reality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <i>Time</i> defense was lame, but the <a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/inflate_your_tires_bush_41_ene.html"><cite>Chicago Tribune</cite></a> has gone one better/worse,Â claiming thatÂ the Bush-41 AdministrationÂ had said &#8220;the same thing&#8221; in aÂ 1990 PSAÂ that said proper tire inflation could save a paltry 50,000 barrels a day.Â  Apparently, numbers don&#8217;t mean a thing; all that matters is thatÂ Obama said proper tire inflation could save <em>some</em> oil, and golly gee,Â someoneÂ in a past Republican administration said that, too.</p>
<p>At this rate, it&#8217;s just a matter of time beforeÂ Obama announces that an apple a day can extend your life expectancy by 200 years, only to haveÂ these media hacks claim he was right because some obscure bureaucrat in the Eisenhower AdministrationÂ once saidÂ apples are good for you.</p>
<p><em>Xrlq&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://xrlq.com/2008/08/07/deflated-reality/' rel="nofollow">Deflated Reality</a></em></p>
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