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		<title>By: Martin L. Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161477</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin L. Shoemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, mikeca, forÂ the research. Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, mikeca, forÂ the research. Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeca</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161475</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was apparently Todd Palin, Sarah&#039;s husband, who was a registered member of the Alaska Independence Party. He is now registered as a independent. 

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpC0ED5JB9qx1iUsd9xz-dBbwWBwD92UR2C81

The AIP Chairwoman told reporters that Sarah Palin was an AIP member, but then later retracted her statement. Sarah may have attended some AIP conventions or meetings with her husband, but never changed her party registration.

Sarah Palin also apparently addressed the AIP state convention by video early this year, but it was mostly just welcoming remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was apparently Todd Palin, Sarah&#8217;s husband, who was a registered member of the Alaska Independence Party. He is now registered as a independent. </p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpC0ED5JB9qx1iUsd9xz-dBbwWBwD92UR2C81" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpC0ED5JB9qx1iUsd9xz-dBbwWBwD92UR2C81</a></p>
<p>The AIP Chairwoman told reporters that Sarah Palin was an AIP member, but then later retracted her statement. Sarah may have attended some AIP conventions or meetings with her husband, but never changed her party registration.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin also apparently addressed the AIP state convention by video early this year, but it was mostly just welcoming remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasAg03</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161460</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: The Alaska Indenpendence Party:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/03/nyt-front-page-palin-story-was-incorrect.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
The New York Slimes Times has retracted the story.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The Alaska Indenpendence Party:<br />
<a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/03/nyt-front-page-palin-story-was-incorrect.php" rel="nofollow"><br />
The New York Slimes Times has retracted the story.</a></p>
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		<title>By: TexasAg03</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161454</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasAg03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: The Alaska Independence Party

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=faa9b0ce-06ad-4c26-bfbc-e7b083e2bc2d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New York &lt;strike&gt;Slimes&lt;/strike&gt; Times has retraced their story.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The Alaska Independence Party</p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=faa9b0ce-06ad-4c26-bfbc-e7b083e2bc2d" rel="nofollow">The New York <strike>Slimes</strike> Times has retraced their story.</a></p>
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		<title>By: TexasAg03</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161453</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasAg03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Alaska Independence Party
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=faa9b0ce-06ad-4c26-bfbc-e7b083e2bc2d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
The New York &lt;strike&gt;Slimes&lt;/strike&gt; Times retracted their story.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Alaska Independence Party<br />
<a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=faa9b0ce-06ad-4c26-bfbc-e7b083e2bc2d" rel="nofollow"><br />
The New York <strike>Slimes</strike> Times retracted their story.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin L. Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161448</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin L. Shoemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you didnâ€™t have your fingers so firmly in your ears, you could probably sing &quot;la la la la&quot; better in tune.&lt;/em&gt;


Ah, Bad, classy as ever. When you can&#039;t defend your position, insult. That works every time!


And if you could remove your Obama blinders for a bit, you would notice my repeated position that I can&#039;t support Senator McCain due to McCain-Feingold. That makes me the ideal neutral party in this, able to judge that this whole &quot;she wasn&#039;t vetted&quot; meme smacks of desperation.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain&#039;s thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain&#039;s advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.&quot;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikFkim0OhsFnxtqQ8p4I0kcyFYqgD92U8OIG1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Associated Press&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Culvahouse said Palin&#039;s review, like others, began with a team of two dozen people culling information from public sources. The team reviewed speeches, financial records, tax information, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces, for a number of potential running mates. For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state&#039;s largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn&#039;t request paper archives for Palin&#039;s hometown newspaper for fear the secret review would become public.&quot;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adn.com/palin/story/513335.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anchorage Daily News&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Palin, like others on the short list, then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 &quot;very intrusive&quot; questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns, as well as any controversial articles she had written or interviews she had done. The campaign also checked her credit. Then, Culvahouse conducted a nearly three-hour-long interview.&quot;


&quot;Not done the way I would do it&quot; (since you&#039;re a professional investigator, no doubt) does not equate to &quot;not done&quot;. The whole &quot;she wasn&#039;t vetted&quot; meme is really just desperate Democrats looking for slime to fling and desperate media folks trying to excuse the fact that they were caught totally unawares. Which one are you?&lt;!-- START most_popular --&gt;&lt;!--  WORD COUNT 738 --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you didnâ€™t have your fingers so firmly in your ears, you could probably sing &quot;la la la la&quot; better in tune.</em></p>
<p>Ah, Bad, classy as ever. When you can&#8217;t defend your position, insult. That works every time!</p>
<p>And if you could remove your Obama blinders for a bit, you would notice my repeated position that I can&#8217;t support Senator McCain due to McCain-Feingold. That makes me the ideal neutral party in this, able to judge that this whole &quot;she wasn&#8217;t vetted&quot; meme smacks of desperation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377_pf.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a>: &quot;Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain&#8217;s thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain&#8217;s advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikFkim0OhsFnxtqQ8p4I0kcyFYqgD92U8OIG1" rel="nofollow">Associated Press</a>: &quot;Culvahouse said Palin&#8217;s review, like others, began with a team of two dozen people culling information from public sources. The team reviewed speeches, financial records, tax information, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces, for a number of potential running mates. For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state&#8217;s largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn&#8217;t request paper archives for Palin&#8217;s hometown newspaper for fear the secret review would become public.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adn.com/palin/story/513335.html" rel="nofollow">Anchorage Daily News</a>: &quot;Palin, like others on the short list, then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 &quot;very intrusive&quot; questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns, as well as any controversial articles she had written or interviews she had done. The campaign also checked her credit. Then, Culvahouse conducted a nearly three-hour-long interview.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Not done the way I would do it&quot; (since you&#8217;re a professional investigator, no doubt) does not equate to &quot;not done&quot;. The whole &quot;she wasn&#8217;t vetted&quot; meme is really just desperate Democrats looking for slime to fling and desperate media folks trying to excuse the fact that they were caught totally unawares. Which one are you?<!-- START most_popular --><!--  WORD COUNT 738 --></p>
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		<title>By: TexasAg03</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161443</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasAg03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;1) Palin is involved in a abuse of power corruption investigation and from available evidence it certainly looks like she lied about her involvement in her public statements.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/#more-7511&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a time line with details concerning &quot;Troopergate&quot;. 

&lt;em&gt;2) Palin appears to have been for the &quot;bridge to nowhere&quot; before she was against it. It looks like her claim to being against it is very misleading.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/31/palins-bridge-to-nowhere-fiscally-responsible-or-politically-expedient/#more-7624&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read this.&lt;/a&gt;&#160;

&lt;em&gt;3) As mayor of a town of 7000, she pulled in $27 million in federal earmarks over 4 years.&lt;/em&gt;

Looks like it&#039;s true, but at least &quot;she used this money to build a train system, build a youth shelter, repair the sewer system, and build a transportation hub&quot; (RedState.com)Â  Certainly doesn&#039;t sound wasteful, but earmarks are earmarks... 

&lt;em&gt;4) It looks like Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence party in the 1990s. This is a fringe party that wanted Alaska to be a separate country in the 1970s, but now wants to hold a vote on whether Alaska should persue seceding from the US. Very interesting VP for a campaign with the &quot;country first&quot; solgan. &lt;/em&gt;

She&#039;s been a Republican since she was 18 &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to this&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/02/mccain-campaign-palin-a-republican-since-1982/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And this.&lt;/a&gt;

At least she didn&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;release anyone&#039;s social security number&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>1) Palin is involved in a abuse of power corruption investigation and from available evidence it certainly looks like she lied about her involvement in her public statements.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/#more-7511" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a time line with details concerning &quot;Troopergate&quot;. </p>
<p><em>2) Palin appears to have been for the &quot;bridge to nowhere&quot; before she was against it. It looks like her claim to being against it is very misleading.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/31/palins-bridge-to-nowhere-fiscally-responsible-or-politically-expedient/#more-7624" rel="nofollow">Read this.</a>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>3) As mayor of a town of 7000, she pulled in $27 million in federal earmarks over 4 years.</em></p>
<p>Looks like it&#8217;s true, but at least &quot;she used this money to build a train system, build a youth shelter, repair the sewer system, and build a transportation hub&quot; (RedState.com)Â  Certainly doesn&#8217;t sound wasteful, but earmarks are earmarks&#8230; </p>
<p><em>4) It looks like Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence party in the 1990s. This is a fringe party that wanted Alaska to be a separate country in the 1970s, but now wants to hold a vote on whether Alaska should persue seceding from the US. Very interesting VP for a campaign with the &quot;country first&quot; solgan. </em></p>
<p>She&#8217;s been a Republican since she was 18 <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html" rel="nofollow">according to this</a>. <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/02/mccain-campaign-palin-a-republican-since-1982/" rel="nofollow">And this.</a></p>
<p>At least she didn&#8217;t <a href="http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/" rel="nofollow">release anyone&#8217;s social security number</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Double standards watch &#124; Pundit Review</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161435</link>
		<dc:creator>Double standards watch &#124; Pundit Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Price at Dean&#8217;s World Why is it we get massive national coverage of VP candidate Sarahâ€™s Palinâ€™s daughter Bristol â€” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Price at Dean&#8217;s World Why is it we get massive national coverage of VP candidate Sarahâ€™s Palinâ€™s daughter Bristol â€” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161434</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or are you just one more self-appointed expert who starts with your conclusion and works backwards from there?&quot;

If you didn&#039;t have your fingers so firmly in your ears, you could probably sing &quot;la la la la&quot; better in tune.

To vet someone is to dig up everything you can find out about them: uncover all the skeletons. Â It means digging deep. Â But even the McCain campaign account seems to describe mostly googling and then giving Palin a questionaire, and McCain talked to her but once, briefly. Â Â 

In short, a sloppy, slapdash effort that could have been put together by an teenage intern rather than any sort of serious effort to vet her. 

Did the McCain campaign know that she tried to ban books from local libraries? Â That this vaunted for of pork actually hired anactual Abramoff-linked lobbyist to win millions in pork all for her tiny town alone? Â And so on. Â There&#039;s no evidence that they tried to find this out, and the places that hold such evidence say that the McCain campaign never contacted them. Â 

In fact, the McCain campaign has lately lamely claimed that they DIDN&#039;T LOOK because, I dunno, the records were in microfilm or something. Â 

But no no: you assure us that all evidence to the contrary, they did a real andÂ thoroughÂ job... or if not that, then &quot;vetting&quot; must for the moment come to be defined as whatever it was that the McCain campaign did do.

It&#039;s nothing short of amazing to see people so deeply wrapped up in their ideology that they start to make arguments and defenses that defy common sense: as sometimes it seems like even they know as they are making them. Â Palin has foreign policy experience (despite having openly denied it herself!) because Alaska is near Russia. Â Or because she headed up the National Guard (oops, no, not on national defense/foreignÂ policy issues she didn&#039;t). Â On and on it goes... Â </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Or are you just one more self-appointed expert who starts with your conclusion and works backwards from there?&quot;</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t have your fingers so firmly in your ears, you could probably sing &quot;la la la la&quot; better in tune.</p>
<p>To vet someone is to dig up everything you can find out about them: uncover all the skeletons. Â It means digging deep. Â But even the McCain campaign account seems to describe mostly googling and then giving Palin a questionaire, and McCain talked to her but once, briefly. Â Â </p>
<p>In short, a sloppy, slapdash effort that could have been put together by an teenage intern rather than any sort of serious effort to vet her. </p>
<p>Did the McCain campaign know that she tried to ban books from local libraries? Â That this vaunted for of pork actually hired anactual Abramoff-linked lobbyist to win millions in pork all for her tiny town alone? Â And so on. Â There&#8217;s no evidence that they tried to find this out, and the places that hold such evidence say that the McCain campaign never contacted them. Â </p>
<p>In fact, the McCain campaign has lately lamely claimed that they DIDN&#8217;T LOOK because, I dunno, the records were in microfilm or something. Â </p>
<p>But no no: you assure us that all evidence to the contrary, they did a real andÂ thoroughÂ job&#8230; or if not that, then &quot;vetting&quot; must for the moment come to be defined as whatever it was that the McCain campaign did do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing short of amazing to see people so deeply wrapped up in their ideology that they start to make arguments and defenses that defy common sense: as sometimes it seems like even they know as they are making them. Â Palin has foreign policy experience (despite having openly denied it herself!) because Alaska is near Russia. Â Or because she headed up the National Guard (oops, no, not on national defense/foreignÂ policy issues she didn&#8217;t). Â On and on it goes&#8230; Â </p>
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		<title>By: P Mike</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/02/just-wondering/#comment-161432</link>
		<dc:creator>P Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note with some amusement that (1) the Clinton&#039;s have not been in the news for the past couple of days, and (2) Obama&#039;s name has come up like twiceÂ (once when he proclaimed that he was providing millions of people to help with hurricane recovery, and once when he said people&#039;s private lives do not belong in a campaign).

Whether Palin was a good choice or bad, her appointment to the VP slot has supplanted Obamanews for the nonce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note with some amusement that (1) the Clinton&#8217;s have not been in the news for the past couple of days, and (2) Obama&#8217;s name has come up like twiceÂ (once when he proclaimed that he was providing millions of people to help with hurricane recovery, and once when he said people&#8217;s private lives do not belong in a campaign).</p>
<p>Whether Palin was a good choice or bad, her appointment to the VP slot has supplanted Obamanews for the nonce.</p>
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