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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161571</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 			 				&lt;em&gt;jrogge,&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;I am sorry if you believed that I wasÂ  implying that you were to the left.Â  I wasnâ€™t.Â  You make it entirely clear that you are a tad pissed at the whole pile.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Thatâ€™s ok.Â  Thatâ€™s good.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Do not make the mistake that you know me, though.
 NASCARâ€¦..for Chrissakes?!!&lt;/em&gt;
Sorry about that I am on my period. My next period hits when the pointless attack ads hit after the first debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>jrogge,</em> <em>I am sorry if you believed that I wasÂ  implying that you were to the left.Â  I wasnâ€™t.Â  You make it entirely clear that you are a tad pissed at the whole pile.</em> <em>Thatâ€™s ok.Â  Thatâ€™s good.</em> <em>Do not make the mistake that you know me, though.<br />
 NASCARâ€¦..for Chrissakes?!!</em><br />
Sorry about that I am on my period. My next period hits when the pointless attack ads hit after the first debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger V Rossman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161566</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger V Rossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jrogge,

I am sorry if you believed that I wasÂ  implying that you were to the left.Â  I wasn&#039;t.Â  You make it entirely clear that you are a tad pissed at the whole pile.

That&#039;s ok.Â  That&#039;s good.

Do not make the mistake that you know me, though.
NASCAR.....for Chrissakes?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jrogge,</p>
<p>I am sorry if you believed that I wasÂ  implying that you were to the left.Â  I wasn&#8217;t.Â  You make it entirely clear that you are a tad pissed at the whole pile.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ok.Â  That&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>Do not make the mistake that you know me, though.<br />
NASCAR&#8230;..for Chrissakes?!!</p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161555</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, his speech is tonight. let&#039;s see if he pisses off his party... if he&#039;s a REAL maverick I expect to hear some grumbling in the audience tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, his speech is tonight. let&#8217;s see if he pisses off his party&#8230; if he&#8217;s a REAL maverick I expect to hear some grumbling in the audience tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161527</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Hate her hard, Bad, hate her with all your might. The more you hate her, the more powerful she will become.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Itâ€™s almost jedi in that wayâ€¦.&lt;/em&gt;&#160;Since we&#039;re all living in fantasy land here that makes her a Sith, which is one of the bad guys. Thanks for confirming that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Hate her hard, Bad, hate her with all your might. The more you hate her, the more powerful she will become.</em> <em>Itâ€™s almost jedi in that wayâ€¦.</em>&nbsp;Since we&#8217;re all living in fantasy land here that makes her a Sith, which is one of the bad guys. Thanks for confirming that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161524</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad: Believe it or not, I&#039;ve known about the Alaskan Independence Party for many years now. There are similar groups in states like Texas and Hawaii and, I think, Montana. 

The AIP has the support of many Alaskans, and both Democratic and Republican candidates generally have to deal with them because they represent enough of the mainstream electorate that they have the power to change and even occasionally win elections. It will be hard to win a statewide election without their support (or at least their non-hostility).

What strikes me as most odd is that you and others are making a moral comparison between this completely above-board and legal non-violent, non-racist political party, one that has actually elected one Governor, to terrorist groups like the Weather Underground or to rhetorical and arguably racist persons like Jeremiah Wright. The comparison strikes me as just plain weird. &quot;God damn the United States&quot; isn&#039;t a slogan of the AIP last I heard, although maybe I&#039;ve missed something.

As for the rest of your allegations: I continue to await the referencing links, hopefully from reliable sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad: Believe it or not, I&#8217;ve known about the Alaskan Independence Party for many years now. There are similar groups in states like Texas and Hawaii and, I think, Montana. </p>
<p>The AIP has the support of many Alaskans, and both Democratic and Republican candidates generally have to deal with them because they represent enough of the mainstream electorate that they have the power to change and even occasionally win elections. It will be hard to win a statewide election without their support (or at least their non-hostility).</p>
<p>What strikes me as most odd is that you and others are making a moral comparison between this completely above-board and legal non-violent, non-racist political party, one that has actually elected one Governor, to terrorist groups like the Weather Underground or to rhetorical and arguably racist persons like Jeremiah Wright. The comparison strikes me as just plain weird. &#8220;God damn the United States&#8221; isn&#8217;t a slogan of the AIP last I heard, although maybe I&#8217;ve missed something.</p>
<p>As for the rest of your allegations: I continue to await the referencing links, hopefully from reliable sources.</p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161519</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Congruently, the Dems who once championed him as a shining example of what a Republican should be, hated him the momentÂ  he became the presumptive Republican nominee (enemy).Â  I believe this to be the true source ofÂ  angst for the left.

&lt;/em&gt;I&#039;m not in the left I am in the middle. Sadly no candidate ever represents the values I believe most of America stands for. We always have two poles we get to vote for. Is this because it makes great drama? Like the, &quot;I respectfully pass&quot; B.S. last night? Seriously he&#039;s the nominee say it and end the convention.

My source of angst is that no candidate ever talks about how we need to seriously address the problem with education here. Our government goes to other countries and exterminates people because they are nasty dictators and they &quot;liberate&quot; these people. These little dictatorships form in our own backyard. There are neighborhoods that are terrorized by &quot;junta&quot; law every day in America and no one cares. Neighborhoods that have no law and order from the police or any other group set in place with our tax dollars and instead have to answer to thugs for what&#039;s right and wrong.

&quot;Self-Mutilating&quot; diatribe. I was almost insulted until I realized that your subconscious had some inner wisdom there picking that label. I&#039;d say conscious but you obviously live in a vapid place where knowledge has to escape. Yes, our country is self-mutilating itself with polemic dramas, slim-fast, and sex in every ad you see. You have major corperations invading our homes with &quot;Sleepover Kits&quot; and buy off our schools. We are slowly getting to the point where people are getting just smart enough to operate the machines, and just dumb enough to believe whatever they&#039;re told.

Yes this country has some real issues and instead of addressing them we spend time in Iraq and pander to religious fanatics, oil barons, gay-rights activists, and NOW while allowing our schools to get to the point where they have to whore themselves out to corporations to get extra money. Better not wear a &quot;Coke&quot; shirt to &quot;Pepsi&quot; day or you&#039;ll be expelled! Great values for a school to teach I guess math and science require independent thinking and are not for the drooling and groveling idiot we&#039;re trying to produce today. &quot;Drink Pepsi&quot;, that&#039;s the lesson for today.

Maybe I&#039;m pissed because every election they say it&#039;s going to be the most important election ever, and every election you have the same candidates with the same B.S. You know that our real problems will never be addressed and they will still continue to hand out placebos to the mindless public.

Go ahead though and enjoy your American Gladiators and Soap Opera elections. I&#039;ll demand a real candidate, thanks. It wouldn&#039;t matter anyway because at this stage he wouldn&#039;t get elected. Why am I so vitriolic? Because, I thought that we had a guy that was going to stamp out government corruption, put fanatics in their place, and try and restore a normal flow to America, but now I know we&#039;ll just have another 8 years of nothing. How foolish I was to believe this election would be any different.

Now go watch some NASCAR or something, the adults are talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Congruently, the Dems who once championed him as a shining example of what a Republican should be, hated him the momentÂ  he became the presumptive Republican nominee (enemy).Â  I believe this to be the true source ofÂ  angst for the left.</p>
<p></em>I&#8217;m not in the left I am in the middle. Sadly no candidate ever represents the values I believe most of America stands for. We always have two poles we get to vote for. Is this because it makes great drama? Like the, &quot;I respectfully pass&quot; B.S. last night? Seriously he&#8217;s the nominee say it and end the convention.</p>
<p>My source of angst is that no candidate ever talks about how we need to seriously address the problem with education here. Our government goes to other countries and exterminates people because they are nasty dictators and they &quot;liberate&quot; these people. These little dictatorships form in our own backyard. There are neighborhoods that are terrorized by &quot;junta&quot; law every day in America and no one cares. Neighborhoods that have no law and order from the police or any other group set in place with our tax dollars and instead have to answer to thugs for what&#8217;s right and wrong.</p>
<p>&quot;Self-Mutilating&quot; diatribe. I was almost insulted until I realized that your subconscious had some inner wisdom there picking that label. I&#8217;d say conscious but you obviously live in a vapid place where knowledge has to escape. Yes, our country is self-mutilating itself with polemic dramas, slim-fast, and sex in every ad you see. You have major corperations invading our homes with &quot;Sleepover Kits&quot; and buy off our schools. We are slowly getting to the point where people are getting just smart enough to operate the machines, and just dumb enough to believe whatever they&#8217;re told.</p>
<p>Yes this country has some real issues and instead of addressing them we spend time in Iraq and pander to religious fanatics, oil barons, gay-rights activists, and NOW while allowing our schools to get to the point where they have to whore themselves out to corporations to get extra money. Better not wear a &quot;Coke&quot; shirt to &quot;Pepsi&quot; day or you&#8217;ll be expelled! Great values for a school to teach I guess math and science require independent thinking and are not for the drooling and groveling idiot we&#8217;re trying to produce today. &quot;Drink Pepsi&quot;, that&#8217;s the lesson for today.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m pissed because every election they say it&#8217;s going to be the most important election ever, and every election you have the same candidates with the same B.S. You know that our real problems will never be addressed and they will still continue to hand out placebos to the mindless public.</p>
<p>Go ahead though and enjoy your American Gladiators and Soap Opera elections. I&#8217;ll demand a real candidate, thanks. It wouldn&#8217;t matter anyway because at this stage he wouldn&#8217;t get elected. Why am I so vitriolic? Because, I thought that we had a guy that was going to stamp out government corruption, put fanatics in their place, and try and restore a normal flow to America, but now I know we&#8217;ll just have another 8 years of nothing. How foolish I was to believe this election would be any different.</p>
<p>Now go watch some NASCAR or something, the adults are talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161511</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you don&#039;t know what &quot;content free&quot; is, or why it&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you don&#8217;t know what &quot;content free&quot; is, or why it&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161510</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad:

Man, to hear that coming from you is just priceless...

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4024&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The DOWNside of Palin&#039;s speech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad:</p>
<p>Man, to hear that coming from you is just priceless&#8230;</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4024' rel="nofollow">The DOWNside of Palin&#8217;s speech</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161507</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief you&#039;re on message CC: and as content free as ever! Â But don&#039;t you ever get tired of toeing the party line instead of actually confronting the issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief you&#8217;re on message CC: and as content free as ever! Â But don&#8217;t you ever get tired of toeing the party line instead of actually confronting the issues?</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/09/03/scandal-of-the-ages/#comment-161505</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad:

You have no idea how much your partisan attacks on Sarah Palin vindicate McCain&#039;s choice of her.

Keep it up, with every sentence you write, you provide another powerful reason for me, and the mainstream of America, to support this young woman.

In my entire lifetime the single most profound political fact that I have learned is that the more the hard Left hates a Republican, the more America loves them.

Hate her hard, Bad, hate her with all your might. The more you hate her, the more powerful she will become.

It&#039;s almost jedi in that way....

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4024&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The DOWNside of Palin&#039;s speech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad:</p>
<p>You have no idea how much your partisan attacks on Sarah Palin vindicate McCain&#8217;s choice of her.</p>
<p>Keep it up, with every sentence you write, you provide another powerful reason for me, and the mainstream of America, to support this young woman.</p>
<p>In my entire lifetime the single most profound political fact that I have learned is that the more the hard Left hates a Republican, the more America loves them.</p>
<p>Hate her hard, Bad, hate her with all your might. The more you hate her, the more powerful she will become.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost jedi in that way&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4024' rel="nofollow">The DOWNside of Palin&#8217;s speech</a></em></p>
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