No, that is what you’re trying to change the subject to. Every single comment here is about the ad. One side claims the ad is a lie. That side now admits the ad doesn’t say what they claimed it said (i.e., doesn’t lie). Ergo, their claim is false.

But yet there’s an entire article written that states a lot more than the ad does and that is what we are talking about here in reality Martin. Your argument is a cop out argument, that is bascially the kind of argument people that are wrong make.

So rather than admit that "images to try to scare voters into believing Obama is a sex pervert" are all in your head, you stoop to insults. Thank you for demonstrating your partisan blindness.

I am referring to normal computers, Hawking’s voice modulator is special but not what I was getting at. McCain can pick up Dragon Naturally Speaking at any computer store and it works fairly well. Sorry, I understand what you are saying and all I have to say is I bet people at the welfare office would probably love to have you as a people’s advocate.

McCain’s injuries make it difficult for him to use a computer for ANY CONSIDERABLE LENGTH OF TIME. Sure he can sit down and type out one or two emails without too much trouble I’d guess.

But he gets HUNDREDS of emails and he tries to answer as many as he can. According to stories I’ve seen he dictates his replies to his wife because she can type for hours without the discomfort or pain that John himself endures.

Nobody is saying that McCain can’t type his name on a keyboard. We, and the stories I’ve seen on the subject, are saying that his injuries prevent him from using the computer for the lengths of time that would be necessary for him to answer dozens of emails at a time.

Do you understand that? Can you understand that?

Let me try it this way, if he was a union communication worker who filed a workers comp suit for carpal tunnel syndrome, would you understand it then?

Think carpal tunnel syndrome times, say, 500. Does that help?

By the way, Steven Hawking’s “computer” is a a highly specialized device that can hardly be called a “computer”. Hawking cannot communicate without his. I would be willing to bet you dollars to donuts that if all Hawking needed to do to communicate is dictate to his wife, he would be one hell of a happy dude.

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I imagine he can still type. Like I said I don’t particularly care if he can use a computer or not. He’s in his 70′s and I don’t know very many 70′s age people that use computers with alacrity. However I find it funny that no matter what criticism is put forth of the man someone find some unreasonably noble retort that barely borders on common sense. I am sure he could use a computer, it is not strenuous. For the record I am sure he can wipe his own ass too, just in case my sarcasm was taken as literal curiosity.

Most people never go to grad school. In fact, most people don’t even graduate, and of those who do, most do not go to grad school. You have to look at what the Undergrads see and experience.

I do and what I typed is what I am experiencing now. I see plenty of left-wing people and plenty of right-wing people. There are young Republican organizations on campus and plenty for Republicans to do. The only thing is, when they take their required Philosophy course for their gen-ed requirements, they have to put up with their professor’s "left-wing bullshit".

Honestly in the classes I have taken I always had to encounter my professor directly to get ANY political opinion from them. You act as if they are just shoving this stuff down people’s throats and this just isn’t the case. Maybe in some universities this goes on, but not in mine and not in all of them. I highly doubt The Wharton Business School is a liberal think tank, but Berkley just may be.

Actually, if you look at public school voting records there is a large Democratic constituency there as well. However our public schools turn out a lot of Republicans so the voting demographic means little. The young adult population has a lot to do with it as well. The 18-30 demographic is your primary source for Liberals and always has been. What happened to the Old Hippies? Some remained hippies but other went centrist or conservative and got jobs. Today we see the same thing. People act as if the Professors rub their hands and organize liberal takeovers of campuses and this just isn’t happening. In fact the Liberals on campus have caused problems for our administration from time to time, hardly something I think is being encouraged. BTW what happened to YOUR views after leaving the 18-30 age bracket? Weren’t you a Democrat at one point? But you aren’t anymore… see?

I get to hear religious fanatics scream at me that I’m going to hell because I am wearing a Nirvana shirt, but no one reports these little protests and activities. Nope they’re all liberals. I see my University everyday and I can tell you the “liberal bias/brainwashing” idea is a load of crap.

Telling me someone can’t use a computer because if injuries is immediately going to make me skeptical because Stephen Hawking was able to use a computer with an even more crippling illness due to voice activated software. I think he’s finally reached the point to where he can no longer do a lot of things and needs full assistance, but back when he wasn’t that way, and still more crippled than McCain, he found a way to use technology. So sorry, I don’t buy it.

Screen caps, or admit you’re making up allegations.

Martin, are you totally computer illiterate? Dean has kindly linked to the video of the ad. I watched it, and I have my opinion of what the graphics mean. You can watch it and form your own opinion. I’m not trying to prove anything to you. I assume you are capable of forming your own opinion.

lol, when was obama part of the annenberg foundation?  he worked as part of a board that received an annenberg grant.  i currently am funded by an nsf grant, i must be part of the government!  when do i get my pension?

By the way, I’m not a right-wing radical, but I don’t see how anyone can look at the available data set and NOT admit that in general the university environment skews pretty far left. It’s usually in university towns you find the most radical political groups like Code Pink and such. Surveys of how college teachers vote show better than an 80% skew toward Democrats (yes, I’ll find you references if you don’t believe it). And all you have to do is be an undergrad at a big 4-year university and look around you to see it, common sense will show it to you. I even saw it frequently at the University of Phoenix, which surprised me since it’s so geared toward returning adults in the 25-50 year old range and is proudly a FOR-PROFIT institution.

I have heard the argument before that the leftish skew means less because schools of law and business and Economics and such have plenty of conservatives/Republicans. Yeah, but the schools of Education and Philosophy skew the other way. But even that’s beyond the point!

Most people never go to grad school. In fact, most people don’t even graduate, and of those who do, most do not go to grad school. You have to look at what the Undergrads see and experience. And once again, you only have to look at surveys of what the ACTUAL VOTING PATTERNS OF MOST COLLEGE TEACHERS IS. It’s overwhelmingly Democratic, and in some colleges, the freakin’ GREEN PARTY gets more votes than the Republicans. There is no way to spin that as anything other than a tilt leftward.

The only other excuse I’ve heard is that well, SMART PEOPLE are left-wing, and righties are dumb. Yeah, okay….

A more charitable explanation may be that conservatives are more interested in making money, so they don’t stick around the universities, and then it gets exacerbated by the fact that those who are conservative just generally don’t feel welcome on campus anyway. Make of that what you will.

I will say that, oddly enough, I’ve seen the least political skew in Community Colleges that only offer 2-year degrees, and I’ve been to a few of those. For whatever that’s worth.

So then the whole claim that the ad is a lie — a claim based on just the sort of overheated rhetoric you’re slinging, and the imaginary images that mikeca the pervert sees — is itself false. Thank you.