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		<title>By: Yu-Ain Gonnano</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/09/why-i-am-voting-against-barack-obama/#comment-163486</link>
		<dc:creator>Yu-Ain Gonnano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, memory hole is correct, McCain never said &quot;Middle Class&quot;.Â  He said &quot;Middle Income&quot; which only further proves how much of a scum-bag he is.

I mean, everything elseÂ McCain says (or does not say) does, so why not that?Â Â Â  /sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, memory hole is correct, McCain never said &quot;Middle Class&quot;.Â  He said &quot;Middle Income&quot; which only further proves how much of a scum-bag he is.</p>
<p>I mean, everything elseÂ McCain says (or does not say) does, so why not that?Â Â Â  /sarcasm</p>
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		<title>By: TexasAg03</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/09/why-i-am-voting-against-barack-obama/#comment-163477</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasAg03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That tells me that he is more interested in winning the election than he is in figuring out the current economic mess and how to help the middle class.Â  In fact, he never once mentioned the middle class in either debate.Â  This economic mess can be blamed on both sides.

&lt;/em&gt;He can&#039;t fix or change anything unless he wins, so I think that should be his focus.Â  I don&#039;t recall if he used the words &quot;middle class&quot; in either debate, but it doesn&#039;t matter.Â  He has made references to &quot;working Americans&quot;, so I think that would be the same thing.

Â &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=114&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s church believes that people should disavow &quot;the pursuit of middleclassness&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (that&#039;s part if their &quot;Black Value System&quot; - very interesting policy), so I take his references to the middle class with a grain of salt.Â  Of course, I guess Obama never saw or heard that either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That tells me that he is more interested in winning the election than he is in figuring out the current economic mess and how to help the middle class.Â  In fact, he never once mentioned the middle class in either debate.Â  This economic mess can be blamed on both sides.</p>
<p></em>He can&#8217;t fix or change anything unless he wins, so I think that should be his focus.Â  I don&#8217;t recall if he used the words &quot;middle class&quot; in either debate, but it doesn&#8217;t matter.Â  He has made references to &quot;working Americans&quot;, so I think that would be the same thing.</p>
<p>Â <a href="http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=114" rel="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s church believes that people should disavow &quot;the pursuit of middleclassness&quot;</a> (that&#8217;s part if their &quot;Black Value System&quot; &#8211; very interesting policy), so I take his references to the middle class with a grain of salt.Â  Of course, I guess Obama never saw or heard that either.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/09/why-i-am-voting-against-barack-obama/#comment-163473</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aziz:

You are too kind to memory hole. It&#039;s not just &quot;poor rationale&quot; that memory is demonstrating it is pure partisan vitriol. I am sure memory did not get up in arms when Obama ran an ad attacking McCain as being too old and out of touch to understand email. No, somehow Obama can do that and people like memory will still talk about what a pure and positive campaign he is running.

As in all things, memory sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest. To say one campaign is more &quot;negative&quot; than the other really does nothing but demonstrate ones&#039; partisan bias.Â  Believe me, from my perspective I agree with Cindy McCain that Obama is running one of the nastiest campaigns in history. McCain probably is too. But that&#039;s not why I&#039;m voting for McCain or against Obama. And its not why memory hole is voting the way he/she is either.

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4181&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Toon of the Day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aziz:</p>
<p>You are too kind to memory hole. It&#8217;s not just &quot;poor rationale&quot; that memory is demonstrating it is pure partisan vitriol. I am sure memory did not get up in arms when Obama ran an ad attacking McCain as being too old and out of touch to understand email. No, somehow Obama can do that and people like memory will still talk about what a pure and positive campaign he is running.</p>
<p>As in all things, memory sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest. To say one campaign is more &quot;negative&quot; than the other really does nothing but demonstrate ones&#8217; partisan bias.Â  Believe me, from my perspective I agree with Cindy McCain that Obama is running one of the nastiest campaigns in history. McCain probably is too. But that&#8217;s not why I&#8217;m voting for McCain or against Obama. And its not why memory hole is voting the way he/she is either.</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4181' rel="nofollow">Toon of the Day</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Aziz Poonawalla</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/09/why-i-am-voting-against-barack-obama/#comment-163467</link>
		<dc:creator>Aziz Poonawalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Itâ€™s odd that anyone would vote for McCain after he stated that his campaign would be shifting the focus of his campaign from the economy to attacking Obama.Â  That is ALL I need to know about the man.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, we may be voting alike, but I think the above is a poor rationale. If the positions were reversed wouldnt you be praising Obama for &quot;speaking truth to power&quot; or &quot;taking the fight to McCain&quot; or whatever? Look, McCain has every right to try and actually &lt;em&gt;win&lt;/em&gt; the election. Voters will decide if they like the strategy or not. So far, they don&#039;t, but its pretty strange to assert that negative campaigning is somehow inherently proof that McCain is unfit to serve. Or that theres some magic ratio of negative/non-neg campaigning, above which a candidate suddenly ceases to be fit for duty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Itâ€™s odd that anyone would vote for McCain after he stated that his campaign would be shifting the focus of his campaign from the economy to attacking Obama.Â  That is ALL I need to know about the man.</em></p>
<p>Well, we may be voting alike, but I think the above is a poor rationale. If the positions were reversed wouldnt you be praising Obama for &quot;speaking truth to power&quot; or &quot;taking the fight to McCain&quot; or whatever? Look, McCain has every right to try and actually <em>win</em> the election. Voters will decide if they like the strategy or not. So far, they don&#8217;t, but its pretty strange to assert that negative campaigning is somehow inherently proof that McCain is unfit to serve. Or that theres some magic ratio of negative/non-neg campaigning, above which a candidate suddenly ceases to be fit for duty.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodgeblogium &#187; Why I am voting against Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodgeblogium &#187; Why I am voting against Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reservations about supporting either Thompson or Giuliani). But I consider Obama unacceptable.  read more &#124; digg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reservations about supporting either Thompson or Giuliani). But I consider Obama unacceptable.  read more | digg [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m voting for McCain, as opposed to voting against Obama. I think Obama is easily the best thing to happen to the Democratic party in a long time. It&#039;s remarkable that he beat the Clintons.

Having said that, he is truly a young man in a hurry. He has accomplished nothing to merit being the most powerful man in the world, leading the greatest country in the world. Despite our flaws (there are many), we truly are the last, best hope for mankind. I still truly believe this, even though, politically, I&#039;m a mushy middle type. 

Obama, and large Dem majorities in Congress will be bad for the country. They already have political monopolies in the inner cities, which are wrecked.

Myself, I think McCain has earned it. Yes, he is old and cranky. But, he&#039;ll be great on National Security and cutting pork barrell spending, so I choose him.

HankB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m voting for McCain, as opposed to voting against Obama. I think Obama is easily the best thing to happen to the Democratic party in a long time. It&#8217;s remarkable that he beat the Clintons.</p>
<p>Having said that, he is truly a young man in a hurry. He has accomplished nothing to merit being the most powerful man in the world, leading the greatest country in the world. Despite our flaws (there are many), we truly are the last, best hope for mankind. I still truly believe this, even though, politically, I&#8217;m a mushy middle type. </p>
<p>Obama, and large Dem majorities in Congress will be bad for the country. They already have political monopolies in the inner cities, which are wrecked.</p>
<p>Myself, I think McCain has earned it. Yes, he is old and cranky. But, he&#8217;ll be great on National Security and cutting pork barrell spending, so I choose him.</p>
<p>HankB</p>
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		<title>By: Dishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solvency of the Entitlements fundamentally requires economic growth.Â  Simply being able to &quot;pay for&quot; them through taxation is not sufficient.Â  The desired goods and services must be available for purchase.
Without economic growth, the whole thing falls down.
On the other hand, we could always just shoot the oldsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solvency of the Entitlements fundamentally requires economic growth.Â  Simply being able to &quot;pay for&quot; them through taxation is not sufficient.Â  The desired goods and services must be available for purchase.<br />
Without economic growth, the whole thing falls down.<br />
On the other hand, we could always just shoot the oldsters.</p>
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		<title>By: jaymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And hereâ€™s why I wonâ€™t (probably) be voting for Obama.Â  Some of the top three reasons are touchy feely stuff. Â But so be it.Â  

Not enough experience, in life, and politically. Â Leadership requires wisdom and intelligence.Â  Obama only brings half.Â  

I donâ€™t like extremists in government, be they left or right wing. Based on his voting record in IL and in the US Senate, Obama is the most extreme left wing candidate weâ€™ve seen since 1972. Â On the other hand, many Republicans donâ€™t like McCain because he goes against the party so often. Â IMO, thatâ€™s a feature, not a bug.Â  

Obama is the product of the most corrupt political environment in the country. Â Maybe thatâ€™s guilt by association.Â  And maybe that experience could even be a BENEFIT in dealing with a country like Russia or Venezuela.Â  But I donâ€™t want that taint and mistrust associated with our president.Â  Arizona politics are wide open and damn near honest to a fault.Â  

And I could talk about how the future of the world is in Asia, and why I think john McCain is the best guy for dealing with that. Â And our 2nd amendment rights.Â Â  And a desire for a smaller government, with lower taxes. Â And more personal responsibility. And just leave me the hell aloneâ€¦..Â  But thatâ€™s enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And hereâ€™s why I wonâ€™t (probably) be voting for Obama.Â  Some of the top three reasons are touchy feely stuff. Â But so be it.Â  </p>
<p>Not enough experience, in life, and politically. Â Leadership requires wisdom and intelligence.Â  Obama only brings half.Â  </p>
<p>I donâ€™t like extremists in government, be they left or right wing. Based on his voting record in IL and in the US Senate, Obama is the most extreme left wing candidate weâ€™ve seen since 1972. Â On the other hand, many Republicans donâ€™t like McCain because he goes against the party so often. Â IMO, thatâ€™s a feature, not a bug.Â  </p>
<p>Obama is the product of the most corrupt political environment in the country. Â Maybe thatâ€™s guilt by association.Â  And maybe that experience could even be a BENEFIT in dealing with a country like Russia or Venezuela.Â  But I donâ€™t want that taint and mistrust associated with our president.Â  Arizona politics are wide open and damn near honest to a fault.Â  </p>
<p>And I could talk about how the future of the world is in Asia, and why I think john McCain is the best guy for dealing with that. Â And our 2nd amendment rights.Â Â  And a desire for a smaller government, with lower taxes. Â And more personal responsibility. And just leave me the hell aloneâ€¦..Â  But thatâ€™s enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Aziz Poonawalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aziz Poonawalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was a good post, Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was a good post, Eric.</p>
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		<title>By: memory hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>memory hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s odd that anyone would vote for McCain after he stated that his campaign would be shifting the focus of his campaign from the economy to attacking Obama.Â  That is ALL I need to know about the man.Â  That tells me that he is more interested in winning the election than he is in figuring out the current economic mess and how to help the middle class.Â  In fact, he never once mentioned the middle class in either debate.Â  This economic mess can be blamed on both sides.Â  I guess my question is, if this was all CLinton&#039;s fualt - as I&#039;ve seen in print - then why, from 2000 - 2006 when the Republicans controlled the executive and legislative branches of government, didn&#039;t they reverse Clinton&#039;s horrible mistake?Â  I don&#039;t think anyone has a good answer to that question, but I&#039;m certainly open to hearing one if someone has one!

BTW, this &quot;horrid congress&quot; has not had the fillibuster-proof majority to override the REPUBLICAN president.Â  so it may be useful for some of you to learn about how Congress works.Â  Maybe it won&#039;t be so puzzling to you as to why the Dems haven&#039;t gotten anything done.


And the American people have NOT forgotten that it was the Republican president and Republican congress that has put this country in such a bad position.

Don&#039;t worry, the Dems will brinng prosperity, peaec and wealth to our country....you can find something else to pretend to be astonished by!Â  Afterall, it can&#039;t do any worse than the Republicans have!!!

Have a wonderful darn tootin&#039; day there, you betcha&#039;!
Oh, if you&#039;re so worried about Obama picking judges who will follow the Constitutioin, how come youÂ weren&#039;t Â upset when Bush did away with Habeus Corpus?Â  (I know, you don&#039;t really have an answer to that.)

Bottom line, it&#039;s the Dems turn....so squeel all you&#039;d like, it&#039;s our time and we&#039;re going to take control, time to &quot;get over it!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s odd that anyone would vote for McCain after he stated that his campaign would be shifting the focus of his campaign from the economy to attacking Obama.Â  That is ALL I need to know about the man.Â  That tells me that he is more interested in winning the election than he is in figuring out the current economic mess and how to help the middle class.Â  In fact, he never once mentioned the middle class in either debate.Â  This economic mess can be blamed on both sides.Â  I guess my question is, if this was all CLinton&#8217;s fualt &#8211; as I&#8217;ve seen in print &#8211; then why, from 2000 &#8211; 2006 when the Republicans controlled the executive and legislative branches of government, didn&#8217;t they reverse Clinton&#8217;s horrible mistake?Â  I don&#8217;t think anyone has a good answer to that question, but I&#8217;m certainly open to hearing one if someone has one!</p>
<p>BTW, this &quot;horrid congress&quot; has not had the fillibuster-proof majority to override the REPUBLICAN president.Â  so it may be useful for some of you to learn about how Congress works.Â  Maybe it won&#8217;t be so puzzling to you as to why the Dems haven&#8217;t gotten anything done.</p>
<p>And the American people have NOT forgotten that it was the Republican president and Republican congress that has put this country in such a bad position.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, the Dems will brinng prosperity, peaec and wealth to our country&#8230;.you can find something else to pretend to be astonished by!Â  Afterall, it can&#8217;t do any worse than the Republicans have!!!</p>
<p>Have a wonderful darn tootin&#8217; day there, you betcha&#8217;!<br />
Oh, if you&#8217;re so worried about Obama picking judges who will follow the Constitutioin, how come youÂ weren&#8217;t Â upset when Bush did away with Habeus Corpus?Â  (I know, you don&#8217;t really have an answer to that.)</p>
<p>Bottom line, it&#8217;s the Dems turn&#8230;.so squeel all you&#8217;d like, it&#8217;s our time and we&#8217;re going to take control, time to &quot;get over it!!!&quot;</p>
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