Right, Aziz, because Frederick totally said Obama had "ties" to bin Laden.  You just accidentally mis-used a synonym! And it just happened to completely alter the meaning to make Frederick sound crazy! An innocent mistake!

. But ok, you’re the victim here, fine.

Your victim and bete noir is reality, not me.

ah, heres the fundamental error in your comprehension. In fact the post I began with did no such thing. But ok, you’re the victim here, fine.

Again, this is very poor reasoning. I could cite one article from The Nation if it supported my point (esp. as they share your bias, making it harder for you to dismiss them), but that doesn’t mean I think they’re unbiased or that I then accept everything else they’ve written. You really need to have some basic grasp of logic if you’re going to attempt to debate.

as far as standards of debate go, "poor reasoning" .. "dishonest" … "hackery". Have I used any comparable terminology to attack you?

If you’d stop using poor reasoning and being dishonest, I wouldn’t have to keep pointing it out.

Our conversation alone seems a good counterexample to the argument that the left universally engages in insults and the right is unfailingly civil.

Except the conversation started with you insulting Republicans by claiming they are bigots and liars, using various poorly reasoned and dishonest means to make that claim. Yes, you’ve perfectly demonstrated who is not civil — and who whines about civility after being the first to violate it.

Uh, right.  When the first 2100 forms submitted are rejected, that’s not "working precisely as it should."  That’s massive, criminal fraud designed to undermine democracy.

Bullshit.  I live in Chicago.  I know better.

Nice try, but everyone does business with the bin Ladens.  They’re billionaire construction tycooons.  Osama was disowned by them many years ago.

Not everyone works with actual terrorists, like Obama did.

except that Obama didnt host a campaign "event" at his house, and they didnt spend years "working together".

Except they clearly did.  You can’t just make up your own facts.  He and the terrorist worked together reviewing proposals at Annenberg for years, and they hosted a coffee at the terrorists’s house.

This is the dishonest left, trying to just edit out any facts about Obama they don’t like.

ACORN flags any suspicious forms they get all the time, encouraging election boards to follow up on them.  They generally hand in these suspicious forms all in one go, at which point they can all get investigated and tossed out.   That’s called the process working precisely as it should, yet for some reason (McCain and his disaster VP sucking wind, cough cough) its being played into a scandal.

Still no evidence whatsoever that any of these things are part of any organized effort to commit actual voter fraud. And indeed, these are the same trumped up charges that many Republican US attorneys were pressured to make a big deal out of: and when they investigated and found the same non-story there, and wouldn’t bring sham prosecutions, they were fired.

In other words, this point is as inflated and asinine as everything else Price says.

Oooops. That was the head of McCain’s transition team that was a lobbyist for terrorist state of Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Sorry, no big deal.

Imagine if Barack had sat down with the bin Laden’s and did business with them both before and after 9/11?

Then, secretly flew the Bin Ladens out of the country after 9/11 when all aircraft were grounded!

The Republicans would have LOVED him!!! 

Afterall, they loves them some Bush! (For the Republicans – B/C those are all the things Bush has done……Mr. 22%, ROFLMAO!!!)