Shocking. I don’t see how anyone could have predicted this.
I guess when Gallup has you up by only two, you need a little extra hope and change. As Ann Coulter points out, Presidential polls have often been, shall we say, excessively friendly to Dems.
Meanwhile, the Secret Service calls “unfounded“Â the claim anyone was actually shouting “kill him” at a Sarah Palin rally, as claimed by the MSM and Obama campaign (but I repeat myself; anyone want to bet which lever David Singleton will be pulling in November?).
In a report approximately one million times as credible, Obama supporters did in fact call for Sarah Palin’s brutal murder. Oh, and they called her a racist too. Oddly enough, this story was not picked up in the national media or talked about at the debate by the McCain campaign.
EVEN MORE SHOCKING UPDATE:Â Tom Brokaw sits on a board that funnels money from George Soros to ACORN.Â
And all this time I thought the media were neutral, unbiased observers. I am so disillusioned right now.
YET MORE SHOCK:Â Joe the Plumber’s tax liens are getting more coverage than the tax liens of… Obama’s campaign treasurer.
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Dave:
That’s because deranged conservatives calling for violent attacks on liberals is a "man bites dog" story.
Deranged liberals calling for violent attacks on conservatives is a "dog bites man" story.
Otherwise you have to conclude that the press is totally in the tank for one side in this election. And that would just get you all sorts of indignant responses from our good, tolerant and coexisting liberal friends.
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I read that story, and I’m confused. When you said that the story provides credible evidence of Obama supporters calling for Palin’s brutal murder, are you talking about this single line, in a story which is mostly about Palin being booed?
Outside on Broad Street, waiting for Palin to leave, one man was heard saying: "Let’s stone her, old school."
That seems like a serious mischaracterization of the story, similar to – ahem – some others we’ve seen around here. Unless you’re talking about something else that I missed.
Elizabeth:
Let’s see, so a FALSE story about a man yelling "Kill Him" at a McCain/Palin rally is reported as fact by every MSM outlet, all of which then write "serious" stories about how the "Right" is getting "angry" and "violent" and Obama himself uses the UNTRUE story in his debate… and yet the TRUE story of an Obama supporter yelling "Let’s stone her, old school" gets virtually no press at all, and you don’t see what Dave is talking about?
I have to say, that seems to be willful ignorance on your part. The comparison is pretty stark apples to apples to me.
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Elizabeth,
Did that person call for Palin to be brutally murdered, or not? The number of lines devoted to the statement is irrelevant to its truthfulness, and in fact emphasizes my point that the death threat (an actual suggestion people should kill her, in close proximity to her person) is being downplayed relative to an apparently nonexistent shouting at a Palin rally.
CC,
I’m sorry, how do we know this story is in fact true? Has the Secret Service looked into it as they did the other story, and found witnesses that corroborate the account? I missed that section of the article Dave linked (must have been my willful ignorance). Could you point it out for me?
My comment about mischaracterizing the story as "credible account of Obama supporters call for brutal murder of Sarah Palin" was based on the following factors. First, we don’t know that this is, in fact, true. The account mentiones in the passive voice ("was heard saying") and doesn’t even say who heard it, specifically, so I don’t see how this can be said to be overwhelmingly credible.  Second, even if true, it is was a threat made by a single person. Supporter, not supporters.  To characterize this as as multiple Obama supporters explicitly calling for Palin’s murder is simply inaccurate.
Dave,
Again, did the Secret Service look into this and determine it was in fact true? How do you know it’s true?
Dave:
There are two ways of interpreting this.
1. The press is totally in the tank for Democrats and are intentionally promoting stories that make Republicans look bad and intentionally downplaying stories that make Democrats look bad.
2. The Left has been so batsh*t deranged for so long that stories about a liberal calling for the stoning to death of a Republican Vice President candidate are literally not "news" since similar things have been going on for eight years now. It’s truly a "dog bites man" story and as such isn’t "news." To illustrate, let me ask you, are YOU surprised to hear that a moonbat liberal yelled "Stone her old school" to Palin? I’m certainly not surprised, that’s pretty much exactly what I expect from the left these days.
Personally I think the correct answer is "both of the above."
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Elizabeth:
Please direct me to the comment you made when the "Kill him" comment was reported where you so diligently asked if the story had been verified by the Secret Service before you accepted it.
I don’t recall that comment.
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CC,
Without any confirmation that this is true, how is what you’re saying not just what you’re accusing the Left of doing when they exploded over the false story of someone making a death threat against Obama? It fits your preconceptions, so of *course* it’s true.
CC,
Dude, some things I say in real life, to real people. I did question it when one of my real-life friends reported it to me, but I can’t give you a link because I, like, said it out loud. I certainly never said anything here, or anywhere else online, that assumed it was true.
Elizabeth,
I think that even if this turns out to be false, the difference between the press (and candidates!) treatment of the story is quite obvious.Â
Elizabeth:
Oh. I see. Well, I guess I’ll have to take your word for it then, eh?
As Paul points out, even if you did, that still doesn’t address the fact that the press treated these two stories in such an obviously biased manner since THEY didn’t bother to verify either one, but only chose to report the one that fit their narrative. And then accentuated and expanded that narrative by using the FALSE event as an excuse to run story after story about the “rage” and “violence” on the right.
Which was Dave’s point in the first place.
Oh, and on the question of whether the “stone her old school” fits my preconceptions of the left? Yep, it sure does. After seeing protesters holding up signs calling for Cheney to die in pain from heart attacks, or for Bush’s daughters to be killed in Iraq, or any of a number of such things, I ABSOLUTELY have a preconception that the Left routinely roots for the violent death of conservatives. Because they do.
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CC,
The truth is that most of my real-life friends are the kinds of liberals who drive you guys crazy. I get plenty of that kind of argument with them, I don’t need to seek it online. If I want to argue with conservatives I come here.Â
*My* point is, Dave described this as a true story of multiple Obama supporters making death threats. It is, in fact, an unsupported story of one Obama supporter making a threat. I would agree with you that the other story was also an unsupported account of one McCain supporter making a threat, but Dave was arguing that this one was MORE credible, and even worse, and it’s not.Â
Elizabeth:
I’ll let Dave respond to how you are characterizing his arguments and intent with a clarification if he wants to.
I doubt we’ll see anyone dig into the story to find out if its true or not. The MSM doesn’t want to keep such a negative liberal story in the news, and the right has no incentive to do an investigation that might prove it to be untrue. So I suspect this one will remain unproven. But I could be wrong.
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Elizabeth:
How about this? An actual criminal assault filed against an Obama supporter who physically attacked a McCain volunteer in New York, breaking her sign and hitting her in the face with the stick?
"…a real district attorney’s complaint documenting an unprovoked assault by an enraged Democrat against a McCain volunteer in midtown Manhattan: “Defendant grabbed the sign [informant] was holding, broke the wood stick that was attached to it, and then struck informant in informant’s face thereby causing informant to sustain redness, swelling, and bruising to informant’s face and further causing informant to sustain substantial pain."
Well, I guess it’s just a formal complaint so far. We’ll probably need to see what the jury says, right?
You wanna bet we don’t see this on CNN’s main web page like we saw the false “Kill him” story? How much you wanna bet? How many “the Left has gone violent and enraged” stories do you think we’ll see? Zero? That’s about right.
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By the way, here is a fairly typical Obama headline from CNN:
"Obama icy cool under fire."
Here is a fairly typical treatment McCain/Palin gets, from a story on Halloween costumes, the headline was simply "Spooky politicians" and the photo? Sarah Palin.
I mean it’s gotten downright hilarious how in the tank the MSM is. You can’t even parody it anymore.
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Just a quick note on the "hitting in the face with a stick" story, which I just read. What I find even more outrageous than another unpublicized attack by a scary member of the leftist illuminati, is that a man attacked a WOMAN! Call me old school, and I’m just in my 20s, but couldn’t he have found a male supporter to hit? I’m just worried about what’s happening to the code of ethics that I thought most Americans shared, even during election season.Â
CC,
That’s terrible. I hope he’s prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and I hope his innocent victim recovers fully. However, I also hope they prosecute this peaceful, reasonable McCain supporter for threatening to kill election officials when his voter card was delayed, because he needed to keep the nigger out of office.
Does anybody think that Palin is taking a risk to be on Saturday Night Live? I really think she will do just fine and be quite funny.
I am quite certain the cast and crew of the show have done everything in their power to set a trap for Sarah Palin. The question is going to be whether Sarah can turn lemons into lemonade.
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Elizabeth:
What I find humorous is how you have completely validated the arguments that I and Dave and others have made which you have attempted to refute up until now.
To pull an "angry Republican" story out now to offset the numerous deranged Democrat stories simply proves our point.
None of us EVER SAID that Republicans don’t do it. WE said that BOTH SIDES do it, but the press only gives one side of it.
So when you now point out that both sides do it, you’re halfway to our side.
Now all you have to do is realize the story about the Democrat physically assaulting a McCain/Palin supporter is not on the front page of the MSM outlets and you’ll be all the way.
Frankly I’ll take the halfway for now. Nice to see you came that far.
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CC,
I’m glad I’ve made you happy, but I think you may have misunderstood my argument. When did I ever say that Republicans are unusually angry and violent? I have consistently said, all along, that such things are just part of extreme partisanship. I’ve never said that Republicans are worse; if you can find an example of me claiming that, I’ll bake cookies and send them to you. Of course both sides do it! You and Dave, however, have consistently claimed that Democrats are worse. You may not have said Republicans don’t commit violence over their beliefs, but you have claimed that Democrats do it more often. If I can match every story of a violent Democrat with a story about a violent Republican, you’re right that it demonstrates both sides behave this way. This was my point all along.
However, I will admit you have a point that it’s a shame that the story about the assaulted McCain supporter isn’t bigger news. I’ll be curious to see if it gets some play over the weekend.
Elizabeth:
And I stand by my claim that Democrats do it more often, with more volume and more vitriol.
And I further stand by my claim that the press hypes up conservative examples and plays down liberal ones.
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