How Close Is The Obama-Terrorist Connection?

by Dave Price on October 19, 2008

in Politics

More details emerge: Obama lent a photo and blurb to Ayers’ book,  which he also appears in.  They also worked on the same floor of the same building for three years. 

And Ace says Politico is sitting on a story that Ayers babysat Obama’s children because the source wants to remain anonymous (after seeing the treatment Joe the Plumber got, can you blame the source)?

Also, Tom Maguire worries that given what we know and don’t know about Obama, the ties between Obama and left-wing terrorists could be very close indeed:

 Some of the protests were violent, including one at John F. Kennedy Airport (from whence the team departed, I believe), and bombs were exploded.

3.  Did I say “bombs”?  Yes, and here is the jaw-dropping connection – the Weather Underground was involved in some fashion and the Brinks robbery which left two police officers and a security guard dead was apparently undertaken to finance activities such as the Springboks bombings.

But before anyone gets too indignant about him impugning the Obamessiah:

For clarity, let me emphasize that I am not alleging that Obama was making bombs with Kathy Boudine. I am wondering how he manged to be active on South African divestment without ever encountering these radicals, and I am wondering why he won’t talk about his Columbia years.

Careful, Tom.  As Joe the Plumber found out, asking tough questions concerning Obama can be dangerous.

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1 CosmicConservative October 19, 2008 at 2:51 pm

I guess I don’t get which of these stories is "new".

I hadn’t heard the babysitting thing, but everything else has been well discussed on the right side of the blogosphere for months.

If you think the mainstream media, which has ignored all this for two years, is going to report on it now, just a few weeks before the election, you are seriously fooling yourself.

I mean, after all, it’s not as if they DON’T KNOW already.

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2 CosmicConservative October 19, 2008 at 3:12 pm

The only way this will ever get any play in the media is if they sour on Obama for some reason, then all of a sudden you’ll see ALL KINDS of stories like this.

And the media will shrug their collective shoulders and say "who knew?’

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3 jrogge October 19, 2008 at 3:56 pm

I can see the next headline. "Former Secretary of State and Former General Colin Powell Endorses Terrorism!"

Next up: What flavor of Kool Aid do you drink? Experts say Sharkelberry Fin is the most popular flavor of Kool Aid and red Kool Aid is the most popular color. Cherry also has very solid numbers in recent polls. However Grape still remains one of the most despised flavors.

4 Dave Price October 19, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Why?  Is Colin Powell endorsing William Ayers?

Sounds you know Koolaid pretty well, and have been drinking it regularly.

5 Jay Dean October 19, 2008 at 7:34 pm

Grape isn’t a popular flavor?????

6 mikeca October 19, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Obama is not a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer. Everyone except a blind partisan hack knows this. The whole point of continuing to bring up the Ayers relationship is so people can use the words "terrorist" and "Obama" in the same sentence.

This is the most disgusting kind of political smear, that tells you a lot more about the character of the people who keep repeating it than the target.

7 Jay Dean October 19, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Some said about Nixon that it wasn’t the break-in, it was the coverup. You’ll hear that if so and so would just come clean about story XYZ, then it would all be old news in a day or two and no one would be talking about it.

You may be totally right, and Ayers may have absolutely no connection to Obama’s feelings, or attidutde, or beliefs or the way Obama thinks. However, Obama doesn’t give off the feeling that he has been honest about his connection to Ayers, whatever that connection may be, and however innocent it may be.

I will grant you that this perception may be to some extent fed by partisan feelings on the right, but I think you could also grant that Obama hasn’t handled this as well as he could have. It seems like Obama will only admit as much about the relationship as he thinks someone can prove. When something new comes out, then he admits a bit more.

For the average person, the idea that Ayers is just some guy from the neighborhood that Obama barely knows does not mesh with serving on a board with him for several years and spending millions of dollars.

Or writing a review of his book.

And there are lots of people in my neighborhood, but I don’t launch a campaign from any of their houses.

Obama doesn’t give a perception of truthfulness on this issue, and if there is a sense that he is not being truthful, then it seems to me that it would be a natural impulse to keep discussing the issue to try to determine what the actual truth might be. I think that is a more likely motivation than thinking "Oh boy! I can use the name ‘Obama’ and the word ‘terrorist’ in the same sentence!"

8 Mc Kiernan October 19, 2008 at 8:07 pm
9 Mc Kiernan October 19, 2008 at 8:21 pm

So Obama says that Ayers was just a guy that lived down the street that he knew from a couple of meetings during the time Obama got to be in charge of spending 150 million dollars for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge .

Read the whole thing please.

10 cardeblu October 19, 2008 at 8:29 pm

From one of Obama’s two memoirs, "Dreams from My Father," he describes his college experience:

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets….At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.”

Did/does he ever repudiate these specific, particular associations?  Imo, the evidence is to the contrary–even to the present. 

Some Brits are getting it as well:

A PINCH OF REALITY
Melanie Phillips

"You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States.  And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so."

Via Dr. Sanity

11 Dave Price October 19, 2008 at 9:45 pm

Obama is not a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer. Everyone except a blind partisan hack knows this

Having close ties to terrorists shows, at the very least, very bad judgment.  Everyone except a blind partisan hack knows this.

This is the most disgusting kind of political smear,

How can it be a smear if it’s true?

Let’s can the phony outrage, okay?  If John McCain had Eric Rudolph babysitting his kids, the press and the left would be screaming about it on the front pages every day till the election. 

12 mikeca October 20, 2008 at 1:27 am

Having close ties to terrorists shows, at the very least, very bad judgment.  Everyone except a blind partisan hack knows this.

Bill Ayers is not a terrorist today. Ayers was a terrorist 40 years ago, when Obama was a young boy. Today Bill Ayers is a responsible citizen. Ayers is a education professor at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Do state universities hire terrorists as education professors?

How can it be a smear if it’s true?

But it is not true.

Suppose I said, "John McCain is a killer." John McCain dropped bombs on Vietnam and almost certainly killed people. Literally the statement is true, but it would still be a smear on John McCain’s record of honorable military service. Smears can be literally true, and still be disgusting distortion of the facts.

Bill Ayers is not a terrorist. Today he is a responsible citizen. You may disagree with his politics, and I may disagree with his politics, but there is no evidence that Ayers had any influence on Obama’s politics.

The whole point is to use the words "terrorist" and "Obama" in the same sentence. Which then ties into the Obama is a muslim rumor circulating on the internet, and relates to the muslims are terrorists theme.

That’s all that is going on here. Guilt by association smears of the most disgusting kind. If you don’t know that is what you are doing by repeating these smears, then you are simply being used by smarter people.

13 Scott October 20, 2008 at 2:13 am

Bill Ayers is not a terrorist today. Ayers was a terrorist 40 years ago, when Obama was a young boy. Today Bill Ayers is a responsible citizen. Ayers is a education professor at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

This *might* be true except that Ayers has never apologized for his actions (in fact he said he didn’t do enough) and has stood proud of his terrorist activities as late as 2001.  But, if you murder, or compel a person to murder, an innocent person in a terrorist attack, then game over, you’re done, you’re a terrorist forever.

Do state universities hire terrorists as education professors?

Well, I guess they do.  That is, if they murder and maim for the *right* reasons (meaning the *left* reasons) and come from a rich and privileged family; only if they’re McVeighs do they get what they deserve.

Suppose I said, "John McCain is a killer." John McCain dropped bombs on Vietnam and almost certainly killed people.

John McCain *did* kill people; but he did it under orders and tried to contain it to combatants.  Ayers specifically targeted and murdered non-combatants.  If he wanted to "end the war" he could have taken on directly the military, but he would be taking a dirt nap and not have the cushy academic job while living in an upscale neighborhood.
 
Guilt by association smears of the most disgusting kind.

I don’t know about you but I tend to look somewhat at a person’s background before associating with them, especially if it is a high-profile background like Ayers.

The simple point is: Obama had to have known Ayers background and his unrepentant status but yet he chose to make him a friend, business partner and political ally.  Which means anything said to criticize or condemn Obama because he freely chose to associate with a terrorist is the truth and not a smear.

14 CosmicConservative October 20, 2008 at 2:19 am

mikeca:

I love how you have allowed your blind partisan bias to lead you to being an apologist for a man who bombed this nation’s government and military buildings, who nurtured a group who bombed and KILLED state police officers, and a man who has not only never repented for his efforts, but who publicly to this day says his only regret was not doing more. This is what your blind support of Barack Obama has produced, a public statement of apology and support for an unrepentant terrorist who targeted AMERICA and America’s highest symbols of government.

This may not say much about Obama mike, but it says boatloads about mikeca.

Much like Gloria Steinem’s famous "one free grope" comment to excuse Bill Clinton’s sexual predation, you now give Obama "one free terrorist friend".

Man, what this election is showing this country about itself.

And it ain’t purty.

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15 redux46 October 20, 2008 at 6:33 am

As an a Obama supporter, I’m absolutely delighted he’s facing McCain, who is proving to be an awful campaigner.

I mean, does McCain really expect to win this election by bringing up Vietnam era stories?

16 Dave Price October 20, 2008 at 9:14 am

Bill Ayers is not a terrorist today. Ayers was a terrorist 40 years ago, when Obama was a young boy.

So in 40 years, Eric Rudolph will be working at UIC? I think not.

Do state universities hire terrorists as education professors?

Yes, clearly they do.  And why is this surprising?  Ayers was a left-wing terrorist, universities are left-wing institutions.

But you hit on an important matter here: Ayers should not have been hired by any decent institution.  He was a terrorist, one who escaped conviction on a legal technicality amd who did not even express regret.  The left needs to pay a steep and painful price for supporting and accepting unrepentant terrorists.  The memories of those murdered by the Weathermen demands it.

I cannot think what would be more perfect justice than for Barack to lose the election because the left embraced a terrorist.

Guilt by association smears of the most disgusting kind

Oh PLEASE.  Barack Obama has spent the last six months talking about the "Bush-McCain policies." 

What’s disgusting is the left’s embrace of a murderer — and Obama knows it, which is why he’s tried to cover up his close relationship. That cover-up may unravel soon.

17 jrogge October 21, 2008 at 11:06 am

Why?  Is Colin Powell endorsing William Ayers?

No, he’s endorsing Barrack Obama the non-terrorist guy you keep calling a terrorist.

I bet you like red Kool Aid.

18 CosmicConservative October 21, 2008 at 11:42 am

I think Bill Clinton proved that the Left will embrace whatever they have to embrace to get or keep their people in power. Obama is not proving anything new, just reinforcing what we already knew.

Republicans throw Mark Foley out without a backward glance, Democrats swarm to the defense of his replacement…

Power folks, that’s all that really matters.

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