Comments on: “Get In Their Faces” http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Wed, 23 May 2012 12:36:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: jrogge http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164258 jrogge Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:22:34 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164258 Tawana Brawley staged a rape to avoid punishment from her parents. The case drew media attention. This person self-mutilated their face in order to try and make Obama supporters look foolish. Both are crazy, but beating yourself up to smear a political campaign is crazier. Tawana Brawley staged a rape to avoid punishment from her parents. The case drew media attention. This person self-mutilated their face in order to try and make Obama supporters look foolish. Both are crazy, but beating yourself up to smear a political campaign is crazier.

]]> By: CosmicConservative http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164230 CosmicConservative Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:48:14 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164230 Bad: I take great offense at your assertion that I inserted race into this at all. As usual, every time race comes up, it comes from the Left. Go figure. <em>CosmicConservative's last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4226' rel="nofollow">Toon of the Day</a></em> Bad:

I take great offense at your assertion that I inserted race into this at all.

As usual, every time race comes up, it comes from the Left.

Go figure.

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]]> By: Brian Tiemann http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164229 Brian Tiemann Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:33:24 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164229 When I first read this story I got the impression that there were witnesses—that the "attack" had occurred in a public place. I'm not sure how I got that idea, but it was what kept me from thinking it was fishy at the outset. (Really, who <i>would</i> accept a person's story like that at face value, no pun intended?) But aside from that, yow, did it ever sound like something out of a bad movie. Or an old South Park episode. Remember "Some Puerto Rican Guy"? When I first read this story I got the impression that there were witnesses—that the “attack” had occurred in a public place. I’m not sure how I got that idea, but it was what kept me from thinking it was fishy at the outset. (Really, who would accept a person’s story like that at face value, no pun intended?) But aside from that, yow, did it ever sound like something out of a bad movie.

Or an old South Park episode. Remember “Some Puerto Rican Guy”?

]]> By: redux46 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164227 redux46 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:55:57 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164227 And of course she said the robber was black. Real nice. And of course she said the robber was black.

Real nice.

]]> By: SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH UPDATE: PHOTO ADDED | PoliticsMuch.com http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164225 SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH UPDATE: PHOTO ADDED | PoliticsMuch.com Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:41:42 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164225 [...] Dean’s World [...] [...] Dean’s World [...]

]]> By: Bad http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164224 Bad Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:12:50 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164224 I didn't say that there weren't examples on the left.   But lets not play ring around the bullshit here.  This story got blown up into major coverage because the right is casting around frantically for a big scandal that can cut into Obama's poll numbers.  And they ran hard with a story that looks like it was always shaky to begin with. The end. If you were skeptical, good for you. Malkin as well. But then again, whether you ever believed it or not, you and others certainly found it a great excuse to go off on tangents about how Democrats love felons and violent black thugs. The ultimate truth or falsehood of the story doesn't matter when its all just an excuse to push those emotionalized themes some more. I didn’t say that there weren’t examples on the left.   But lets not play ring around the bullshit here.  This story got blown up into major coverage because the right is casting around frantically for a big scandal that can cut into Obama’s poll numbers.  And they ran hard with a story that looks like it was always shaky to begin with. The end.

If you were skeptical, good for you. Malkin as well. But then again, whether you ever believed it or not, you and others certainly found it a great excuse to go off on tangents about how Democrats love felons and violent black thugs. The ultimate truth or falsehood of the story doesn’t matter when its all just an excuse to push those emotionalized themes some more.

]]> By: CosmicConservative http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164223 CosmicConservative Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:08:15 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164223 I need a grammar refresher... If we are only comparing Democrat to Republican, isn't it impossible for one to be "crazi<strong><em>est</em></strong>"? Doesn't it have to be "crazi<strong><em>er</em></strong>?" <em>CosmicConservative's last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4226' rel="nofollow">Toon of the Day</a></em> I need a grammar refresher…
If we are only comparing Democrat to Republican, isn’t it impossible for one to be "craziest"? Doesn’t it have to be "crazier?"

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]]> By: CosmicConservative http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164222 CosmicConservative Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:03:49 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164222 Man, people crack me up. It's not as if some moonbats haven't done the same thing on the Left. Tawana Brawley comes quickly off the top of my head. The only thing worse than conservatives supposedly "jumping all over this to make Obama look bad" is liberals pretending that there aren't plenty of examples of the same thing on the Left. And as I recall, Tawana Brawley became a huge hero to the Left for months and months. It's fairly typical on the conservative side to debunk these things quickly instead of turning the person into a longtime martyr. As I understand it, there are still plenty of liberals who bleieve the original Tawana Brawley story in spite of her own confession.... Also, I might point out that my own initial reaction (and I'm a pretty typical conservative) is that it was very likely a play for attention by the poor woman. And I wasn't the only one, in fact the majority reaction on the right was probably as skeptical as my own. <em>CosmicConservative's last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4226' rel="nofollow">Toon of the Day</a></em> Man, people crack me up. It’s not as if some moonbats haven’t done the same thing on the Left. Tawana Brawley comes quickly off the top of my head.

The only thing worse than conservatives supposedly "jumping all over this to make Obama look bad" is liberals pretending that there aren’t plenty of examples of the same thing on the Left.

And as I recall, Tawana Brawley became a huge hero to the Left for months and months.

It’s fairly typical on the conservative side to debunk these things quickly instead of turning the person into a longtime martyr.

As I understand it, there are still plenty of liberals who bleieve the original Tawana Brawley story in spite of her own confession….

Also, I might point out that my own initial reaction (and I’m a pretty typical conservative) is that it was very likely a play for attention by the poor woman. And I wasn’t the only one, in fact the majority reaction on the right was probably as skeptical as my own.

CosmicConservative’s last blog post..Toon of the Day

]]> By: Bad http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164221 Bad Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:29:53 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164221 If the young woman has a history of mental illness, that's really sad.  Drudge and others that jumped on this story out of desperation to try and find something to beat Obama back with have only ended up doing huge damage to this girl, who probably was only ever seeking attention from other local campaign volunteers.  Now she's branded internationally as a hoaxer, which has to be devastating and far far out of proportion to anything she did wrong. Campaigns should not be in the business of turning away eager volunteers because they have mental problems either, and I worry that this incident will make that more common.  In 2004, one of the nicest volunteers we had was a schizophrenic woman in her 30s who lived alone in a special apartment building with her cats, and tended to ramble on bizarre digressions.  We didn't put her on the phones, but she was a tremendous help in making campaign materials and was close to staff and other volunteers.   I'd hate to see campaigns start treating such people as liabilities rather than treating them as people.  If the young woman has a history of mental illness, that’s really sad.  Drudge and others that jumped on this story out of desperation to try and find something to beat Obama back with have only ended up doing huge damage to this girl, who probably was only ever seeking attention from other local campaign volunteers.  Now she’s branded internationally as a hoaxer, which has to be devastating and far far out of proportion to anything she did wrong.

Campaigns should not be in the business of turning away eager volunteers because they have mental problems either, and I worry that this incident will make that more common.  In 2004, one of the nicest volunteers we had was a schizophrenic woman in her 30s who lived alone in a special apartment building with her cats, and tended to ramble on bizarre digressions.  We didn’t put her on the phones, but she was a tremendous help in making campaign materials and was close to staff and other volunteers.   I’d hate to see campaigns start treating such people as liabilities rather than treating them as people. 

]]> By: jrogge http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164218 jrogge Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:18:49 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/10/23/get-in-their-faces/#comment-164218 See that's why conservative protesters are better. They don't hit other people. Instead they carve letters into their own faces and blame it on someone else. Kinda like how they treat the economy. See that’s why conservative protesters are better. They don’t hit other people. Instead they carve letters into their own faces and blame it on someone else. Kinda like how they treat the economy.

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