Weekend Open Thread

by Dean Esmay on October 25, 2008

in Etc.

Hey guys. How was your week? Whatcha up to? Got any good links?

*Update* Bumped for Saturday!

{ 22 comments }

1 TexasAg03 October 24, 2008 at 7:08 pm

I thought this was interesting.  Particularly telling is the percentage voting for Obama who list "none" for their religion and the difference in those who do and do not fly the flag.

Neither surprises me.

The income trends are interesting as well. The lowest income is for Obama, the middle is for McCain, and the highest swings back to Obama. The low income vote is no surprise, but I was a bit surprised at the middle and high income numbers.

2 Mc Kiernan October 24, 2008 at 9:19 pm
3 Aziz Poonawalla October 24, 2008 at 10:38 pm

dean – any chance to read that email i sent ya?

4 John_B October 24, 2008 at 10:38 pm

If you need a little dose of paranoia before your put your sleepy heads down on the pillow, Economist has some nighttime reading.

John_B’s last blog post..Economist on Saudi Terror Trials

5 James H October 24, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Here are a few things.

Smithsonian Magazine, which I (pathetically) discovered today, has some great historical articles.  Among them, an article about a new dig at Stonehenge, an article on Frank Woodruff, the last "doughboy," and a piece on what might be the world’s first temple, recently discovered in Turkey.

If you’re not feeling historical tonight, I point you to a Wikipedia article about the nearly forgotten Number One, a Star Trek character. 

In commentary, E.J. Dionne sees a civil war in the GOP ranks.  Charles Krauthammer maintains he’ll vote McCain for president.  Meanwhile William Weld (a RINO to begin with, honestly), has broken ranks with the GOP on the presidential election.

Also in politics, the New York Times Magazine profiles multiple John McCains.  A Slate writer tries to spend $150,000 on a wardrobe.  Also in Slate, Fred Kaplan says being a fighter pilot off Cuba didn’t prepare McCain for the presidency. 

One more Slate link before somebody throws a piece of slate at me:  How FDR saved capitalism. 

In less serious material, College Humor takes on Superman and Batman.  College Humor also notes some interesting Gmail ads. 

6 Dave Price October 24, 2008 at 10:43 pm

Afraid it could the last week this year for the Corvettte; flurrries in the forecast this weekend.

It’s just not worth driving it with the top on.  I think high thirties is my limit, and if there’s salt out it stays in.

Texas,

That poll is a bit screwy. They have him way up in the 18-24 range which has to be very wrong (note their asterisk). I would guess the 75K+ crowd is pretty solid McCain territory, based on traditional voting patterns.

7 J.A. Eddy October 24, 2008 at 11:02 pm

Proud papa moment for me: The Middle Boy is 16 and working a job at a grocery store. As he and a cohort are collecting carriages outside they are, believe or not, talking about politics. This leads to a conversation with a customer that develops into a polite and earnest discussion of the merits of one Barak Obama, likely next President of the United States.

The customer, an older woman (which means above 27 in my son’s age group) explains that Obama and the Democrats believe the wealthy have an obligation to pay back to society in taxes for the wealth they have. My son, no slouch, asks in all sincerity, ‘Don’t the top 5 or 10% of wage earners pay about 90% of all taxes already?’

The acorn doesn’t drop far from the tree, apparently. AND things remained polite.

8 ArnoldHarris October 25, 2008 at 9:56 am

Something most interesting and thought-provoking appeared in Newsmax yesterday.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_birth_certificate/2008/10/24/143882.html?s=al&promo_code=6E2D-1

This deals with the phenomenon of a candidate who may be electred president of the United States ten days from now, but who cannot and apparently will not produce an authenticated and numbered birth certificate from a vault in the US state which he claims as his place of birth.

Some months ago, a suit was filed in the a court in Pennsylvania by a former assistant attorney general of that state — and active Hillary Clinton supporter — demanding authentication of the date and place of birth of one "Barack Hussein Obama II", who, under the United States Constitution, cannot be administered the oath of office and be duly sworn in as president of the United States if we was of foreign birth under the rules that applied at the time of that birth.

"Barack Hussein Obama II" is the name on his purported birth certificate posted on one of his campaign websites, presumably as an answer to the legally binding demand from the Pennsylvania activist.

But the posted document has been shown to be a fake, among other reasons, by the fact that the vault identification number was blacked out and in the use of certain descriptive terms of the newborn that were not used in records of the claimed state of birth in 1961.

Moreover, there is evidence that Obama’s mother was in Kenya late in her pregnancy with her Kenyan husband at that time, and that the airlines routinely refused passage to women imminently expecting childbirth. In addition, numerous Obama family eyewitnesses have claimed that he was in fact born in Kenya.

In any case, I can only say that is has truly been a remarkable job the national news media has failed to do in vetting this of all candidates for the US presidency.

As everybody reading this comment must be fully aware, it is incidents such as this that tear in shreds the trust that a society has for its elected leaders. Because among the ordinary people, once they learn they have been lied to, they never again trust the liars who rule them. And all the half-billion dollars of Hollywood hype on behalf of this candidate will never be enough to restore the former trust.

He  either is or is not constitutionally a citizen by birth of the United States of America, and there is no possible compromise.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

9 Dean Esmay October 25, 2008 at 10:22 am

Aziz: I don’t use my Gmail account much at all anymore, and I’m assuming you used that, as I got nothing on my AOL address which I thought you had (my last name and my first name, no space). I’ll check in to it…

10 Aziz Poonawalla October 25, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Dean, yeah i sent to gmail. email me azizhp at gmail from your AOL so I am current and I will resend..

Arnold, this statement:

Something most interesting and thought-provoking appeared in Newsmax yesterday

is a wonderful example of a self-refuting assertion. I might have to frame it.

11 ArnoldHarris October 25, 2008 at 3:57 pm

Aziz,

I fail to see anything self-refuting about bringing public attention to an article in a web-based news and news commentary magazine.

Moreover, I think you are responding negatively to any discussion about the article because of your political support for "Barack Hussein Obama II".

And yes. The middle name listed on his purported definitive birth certificate from the State of Hawaii will remain with him until he gets a duly authorized civil court to change or remove that name.

Lots of us get by without middle names. I do, for one.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

12 Dean Esmay October 25, 2008 at 7:23 pm

I don’t use my middle name on just about anything, but I don’t see any point in trying to have it removed. Whatever for?

13 James H October 25, 2008 at 8:21 pm

This may be a rehash of an earlier argument had in a seminary somewhere over the past two millennia, but might as well toss it out for you guys to chew over.

What if you had a religion that acknowledge the monotheistic God as a man-created concept?  Specifically, what if "God" were regarded as a set of moral precepts and behaviors to which one should aspire?  This kind of faith or philosophy would look to the Bible not as a literal accounting of events, but rather for moral or philosophical inspiration?  Or even to gain insight into the thought processes of those mortals who might have written them?

Just a thought running through my head.  Y’all can toss around as you like.

14 willem October 25, 2008 at 10:32 pm

This was exceptionally interesting…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeCf5Xq0YSc

15 willem October 25, 2008 at 10:35 pm

For more on the Constitutional eligibility controversy about Obama, including the law, background and legal actions to date, go to:

http://www.americasright.com

This relatively new blogger has done a remarkable job squaring the facts and putting them on the table.

16 Dean Esmay October 26, 2008 at 3:28 am

James. while I don’t believe that exactly, a lot of people do. It’s popular in Alcoholics Anonymous circles among those who are agnostics–they call it "Good Orderly Direction."

17 James H October 26, 2008 at 7:42 am

Interesting.  Wasn’t sure how much currency that sort of belief has. 

18 Sandi October 26, 2008 at 9:05 am

Remember the MadTV show? Wonder why it didn’t stay around like SNL? Anyway Miss Swan was one of my favorite skits.

I put together a few favorites.

19 Dean Esmay October 26, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Sandi: MadTV is still on the air. Their web site is right here. They’re on season 14 now, according to their web site.

I’ve tried to like MadTV but I usually find the writing just a little weak, and with their comedy it seems like they try just a little too hard. I don’t know how to quantify "tries too hard" but it often feels to me like they’re forcing the funny and they’re also making their skits go on longer than they need to to get the joke across. But maybe that’s just me. They have often had some very funny stuff, no question. I’ll check out your clips…

20 Sandi October 26, 2008 at 5:24 pm

Dean, I don’t know why I thought they were gone. Probably because our cable company has cut our channel lineup to just one FOX network channel that I rarely ever watch.

Thanks for the heads up and the link, and I will try to catch them this weekend.

BTW the videobox (lightbox for video clips from thumbnails) used on my Movable Type blog, I have also implemented for WordPress. If you want to use it, and Brian can ftp a couple of files to the server I can set it up for you.

21 Dean Esmay October 27, 2008 at 4:25 am

Interesting, I might be but Brian is awfully busy these days. Could you do it if I gave you the access?

22 Sandi October 27, 2008 at 10:40 am

Interesting, I might be but Brian is awfully busy these days. Could you do it if I gave you the access?

Yes I would be happy to Dean. You will have to set me up with an ftp account on your server so I can upload the needed files (can’t be done through WP dashboard).

If you need help setting up the ftp account and don’t want to bother Brian shoot me an email. ipbforum AT charter DOT net.

Edit: Or better yet catch me on IM.
Yahoo: sandra_lynn_wi
MSN: MyWasteBasket AT charter DOT net

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