Comments on: If You Care… http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Wed, 23 May 2012 12:36:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: damnum absque injuria » Election Post-Mortem http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164859 damnum absque injuria » Election Post-Mortem Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:37:44 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164859 [...] be that if we hadn’t elected her). And while I thoroughly reject the notion that “America wins” just because we held an election, I do see a few silver linings [...] [...] be that if we hadn’t elected her). And while I thoroughly reject the notion that “America wins” just because we held an election, I do see a few silver linings [...]

]]> By: jrogge http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164855 jrogge Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:36:17 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164855 I am guilty of voter fraud, I cheated and voted on Republican day today. I was supposed to vote on Democrat day on the 5th... according to the robocall I got. Good Riddance and God Bless. I am guilty of voter fraud, I cheated and voted on Republican day today. I was supposed to vote on Democrat day on the 5th… according to the robocall I got.

Good Riddance and God Bless.

]]> By: Dave Price http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164847 Dave Price Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:57:45 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164847 I'm not sure I can celebrate a free and fair election.  Let's see how much vote fraud there was first. I’m not sure I can celebrate a free and fair election.  Let’s see how much vote fraud there was first.

]]> By: Hank Barnes http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164835 Hank Barnes Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:03:11 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164835 I tend to agree with the sentiment, Dean. Life ain't politics, politics is a part of life. I do love this country, flaws and all. I don't think Obama's election is the Second Coming of the Apocalypse either -- that's just crazy. I do wish the new President-elect well. HB I tend to agree with the sentiment, Dean. Life ain’t politics, politics is a part of life. I do love this country, flaws and all. I don’t think Obama’s election is the Second Coming of the Apocalypse either — that’s just crazy.

I do wish the new President-elect well.

HB

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164828 Dean Esmay Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:37:40 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164828 <em>1. You use the word "fool" like some people go through socks.</em> That's because fools are as common as dirty socks. I make no apology for saying so. <i>As a Catholic you should know just how weighty that word really is and how lightly it should be used.  If ever used.  To call someone a fool is to usurp God's authority and judge a person's heart as utterly and completely corrupt.</i> Which is pretty much how I see every single Fundamentalist Christian and every person who embraces the non-biblical, non-sciptural doctrine of "sola scritpura' that is found nowhere in the bible from Genesis through Revelation. It is the most common doctrine read into scripture that isn't actually there that you embrace. So what? People like you are common. You worship the scriptures instead of worshiping Christ. You're as common as grains of sand on the beach. So what? You fools believe that Jesus gave us a book, and he didn't. What other stupid shit will you try to sell us? More later. My aunt needs my attention right now. 1. You use the word "fool" like some people go through socks.

That’s because fools are as common as dirty socks. I make no apology for saying so.

As a Catholic you should know just how weighty that word really is and how lightly it should be used.  If ever used.  To call someone a fool is to usurp God’s authority and judge a person’s heart as utterly and completely corrupt.

Which is pretty much how I see every single Fundamentalist Christian and every person who embraces the non-biblical, non-sciptural doctrine of "sola scritpura’ that is found nowhere in the bible from Genesis through Revelation. It is the most common doctrine read into scripture that isn’t actually there that you embrace. So what? People like you are common. You worship the scriptures instead of worshiping Christ. You’re as common as grains of sand on the beach. So what? You fools believe that Jesus gave us a book, and he didn’t. What other stupid shit will you try to sell us?

More later. My aunt needs my attention right now.

]]> By: Choey http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164825 Choey Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:22:50 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164825 I do take some comfort in the knowledge that Obama has no authority to implement any of his policies by decree (although I wouldn't be surprised to see him try).  He has to get a majority of both houses of congress to go along with him and although there are a few kooks who are as incompetent as he, there are a significant number of Democrats who know they would be ending the Democrat party for a generation if they actually went along with him on some of his more outrageous policies.  It will definitely be fun to watch though. I do take some comfort in the knowledge that Obama has no authority to implement any of his policies by decree (although I wouldn’t be surprised to see him try).  He has to get a majority of both houses of congress to go along with him and although there are a few kooks who are as incompetent as he, there are a significant number of Democrats who know they would be ending the Democrat party for a generation if they actually went along with him on some of his more outrageous policies. 
It will definitely be fun to watch though.

]]> By: jeanedcrusader http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164824 jeanedcrusader Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:57:46 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164824 I agree with Scott. Our country is stronger than Barack Obama's incompetence. We have to change our fatalistic thinking if the liberal illuminati win--we have to somehow stay positive and engaged or we'll go insane. We can't check out for the next four years.  I agree with Scott. Our country is stronger than Barack Obama’s incompetence. We have to change our fatalistic thinking if the liberal illuminati win–we have to somehow stay positive and engaged or we’ll go insane. We can’t check out for the next four years. 

]]> By: ctl http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164823 ctl Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:39:58 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164823 So Dean, is your thesis that bad policies don't matter, or what, exactly? That everyone who runs for office is so reasonable and moderate that America will never falter or fail? Why, exactly, do you think that America is immune to decay? So Dean, is your thesis that bad policies don’t matter, or what, exactly?

That everyone who runs for office is so reasonable and moderate that America will never falter or fail?

Why, exactly, do you think that America is immune to decay?

]]> By: Scott Kirwin http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164822 Scott Kirwin Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:28:44 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164822 I voted straight Republican tonight here in Joe Biden's home state. Since 1999 I've wanted to vote for John McCain, a true American hero and hothead, and tonight I did just that. Deep down I knew that I was voting for a losing ticket but I did it anyway. I have faith in my country; it's much stronger than Barack Obama's incompetence and will survive it. And who knows? Maybe he'll surprise us. Bush did - and I voted against him in 2000. I voted straight Republican tonight here in Joe Biden’s home state. Since 1999 I’ve wanted to vote for John McCain, a true American hero and hothead, and tonight I did just that. Deep down I knew that I was voting for a losing ticket but I did it anyway.

I have faith in my country; it’s much stronger than Barack Obama’s incompetence and will survive it. And who knows? Maybe he’ll surprise us.

Bush did – and I voted against him in 2000.

]]> By: Kevin D. http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164821 Kevin D. Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:25:19 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/04/if-you-care/#comment-164821 1.  Invest in a thesaurus.  <em>Seriously</em>.  You use the word "fool" like some people go through socks. 2.  As a Catholic you should know just how weighty that word really is and how lightly it should be used.  If ever used.  To call someone a fool is to usurp God's authority and judge a person's heart as utterly and completely corrupt.  Is that what you <em>really</em> intended to say over, and over, and over, and over again? 3.  The right to vote is not a victory for anyone.  You don't praise the mechanism that allows a people to vote in a despot.  You say, "How can we fix that mechanism so that it doesn't happen again?" Who wins the election is just as important and the mechanism that runs the election.  You don't get to punch the ticket for tyranny then act like you really did some world-shaking good. The Founders may have shed blood to get our voices heard in governement but it is a a slap in their faces to use that vote to elect oppression.  And how dare anyone celebrate doing so.  Better to not be heard. Voting is a right to be praised when exercised wisely. It isn't, in an of itself, something to be praised. It's just another mechanism to wield power - nothing more. Only when used with care and humility does it become powerful. Praise it when it is used to do good, ask how it can be fixed when used to do evil. 1.  Invest in a thesaurus.  Seriously.  You use the word "fool" like some people go through socks.
2.  As a Catholic you should know just how weighty that word really is and how lightly it should be used.  If ever used.  To call someone a fool is to usurp God’s authority and judge a person’s heart as utterly and completely corrupt.  Is that what you really intended to say over, and over, and over, and over again?
3.  The right to vote is not a victory for anyone.  You don’t praise the mechanism that allows a people to vote in a despot.  You say, "How can we fix that mechanism so that it doesn’t happen again?"

Who wins the election is just as important and the mechanism that runs the election.  You don’t get to punch the ticket for tyranny then act like you really did some world-shaking good.

The Founders may have shed blood to get our voices heard in governement but it is a a slap in their faces to use that vote to elect oppression.  And how dare anyone celebrate doing so.  Better to not be heard.

Voting is a right to be praised when exercised wisely. It isn’t, in an of itself, something to be praised. It’s just another mechanism to wield power – nothing more. Only when used with care and humility does it become powerful.

Praise it when it is used to do good, ask how it can be fixed when used to do evil.

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