Rocky Blogfriend is online.
Ron
I am really having a crisis of faith
Rocky
in?
Ron
Us
I can’t believe some of the crap that’s going up on RW blogs
Rocky
Lol
You ain’t seen nothing yet my friend
Ron
I never considered Plonis DePloni a major intellectual but
she is getting absolutely scary
Rocky
the blogosphere on the left
pre-Bush, was relatively moderate — well, sort of
8 years later it was Bush is hitler and he knocked down the world trade center
Ron
OK but hell with the far left, they’re scum
We’re BETTER
Rocky
u don’t think that is going to happen to us?
Ron
It is, it is
Tin hats all around!
Rocky
Dude, Honestly, Obama reminds me of chavez or Castro
That’s what I honestly think, no bs, no hype
I already heard that a prominent conservative
whose name I won’t drop
is telling people that he thought Obama might literally try a fascist coup
Ron
Good thing you didn’t drop it
I also remember when Bill Clinton was going to take over and refuse to hand the keys to GWB
Why would someone with such political skill need a coup?!
Rocky
yeah. There is always some of that going around.
As long as we have sniper rifles in this country, there will never be a coup
this is going to inspire a post =D
Ron
I could see him getting Congress to offer up an amendment to the Constitution repealing the whatever amendment on term limits for the POTUS
Rocky, I am one PRETTY DAMNED RIGHT WING GUY
And I am just embarrassed at what is being said and written out there!
Rocky
that would take a constitutional amendment. He couldn’t pull it off…
Dude, well it is going to get much, much, worse
I am just telling you
Ron
I know.
Rocky
it’s the nature of human beings
Ron
How do guys like us get ahead of the curve without seeming as if we’re pandering?
Rocky
Heh. You just gotta take it as it comes. Depends on what obama tries to do.
Ron
No, forget that. Think INSIDE the box on that okay? Just humor me.
Pretend that politics just stinks
and we just got our behinds kicked
and that’s all there is.
Rocky
ok…
Ron
I am talking local, not global.
Sky not falling.
Rocky
got ya…
Ron
How can we establish a voice in the blogosphere — I don’t mean NRO –
for sane but not “moderate” conservatism?
we should try to find a way to enunciate this concept of, hey, wait –
There is a voice of the Principled Hard Right!
We are against socialism, statism, yes!
We are against higher taxes, yes!
We are against appeasement, yes!
But we DO believe in the Constitution!
We DO believe in loyalty to our country, regardless of the party in power!
We DO believe in being better, behaving better and thinking better than the other side!
We are interested in recapturing political power
…. democratically!
… legally!
… ethically!
Rocky
of course
Ron
By virtue of
THE POWER OF OUR IDEAS
Expressed clearly
without panic or hyperbole
But sparing no sacred cow.
I thank you.
LOL
Rocky
heh
sounds like u got a post there
Ron
Maybe I’ll just cut and paste this LOL
Well, those are my thinkings… see ya later.
Rocky
Have a good one.
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The problem is that "ideas" don’t put food on the table. Lots of people are scared by stuff like healthcare that will only get more expensive over time as new medical technologies become available, which will allow even more people to live long and expensive lives with chronic conditions that used to die cheaply.
Unfortunately, there isn’t a good libertarian or small-government conservative answer to this problem, and "trust Mr. Market – he’ll take care of you" doesn’t pass the sniff test if you aren’t already a libertarian. It especially doesn’t work if you’ve ever had to buy your own health insurance, you’re more than 22 years old, and ate a few too many pizzas over the years like about 90% of Americans.
I actually liked McCain’s "health insurance voucher" scheme a lot. It would let prices do their thing, while avoiding the "we’ll give you freedom to die broke" problem that libertarian arguments often devolve into.
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I’m not sure what conservative ideas are right now. Part of the problem is that what passes for conservative ideas are very unpopular and/or totally unworkable.
Take for example health care. Many American business leaders have figured out that they are competing in the global market. In most industrialized countries, the government provides health care, not companies. As health care costs rise, US companies are realizing they simply cannot continue to provide health insurance subsidies and compete in the global market.
The "conservative" solution to this is to shift all of health care costs from companies on to the individual. Conservative think tanks have concluded that health care costs are rising so fast because people have too much health insurance. They are getting gold plated health insurance plans from their employers. By shifting all of the cost onto individuals (with some tax credits) this will force individuals to shop carefully for lower cost insurance. But it will certainly mean that the quality of health care in the US will decline further. The US already spends almost twice as much as any other developed country per capita on health care and has lower quality of health care. The "conservative" solution is to lower quality of health care more, leave more people with no health insurance at all (because they cannot afford it), in the hopes that will reduce the cost of health care.
While this "solution" may appeal to the followers of Anne Rand, it simply does not sell well to the broad population. At it’s core, selling health insurance to individuals is not a viable solution. No for profit health insurance company can sell insurance to someone who is seriously ill. Only healthy people can buy low cost health insurance, and it will get canceled as soon as they become seriously ill. That is the way the free market is suppose to work. Insurance companies that do not work that way, can not possibly stay in business.
Today, seriously ill people mostly have insurance through their employers or Medicare. When an insurance company sells insurance to a company, it knows there are a few seriously ill people mixed in with the mostly healthy works, and it can profitably price that insurance accordingly. Health insurance to large groups is a viable business model. Health insurance to individuals is simply not a viable solution to anything.
Conservatives on this point are so stuck in ideology that they do not have any workable solutions to the health care problem.
mikeca,
Her name was Ayn, not "Anne". It appears you’re not terribly familiar with her.
Regarding health care, it appears to me that all ideas on the table are unworkable or unpopular. The fundamental problem is that the number of available medical treatments continues to expand, and medical expenses grow along with that faster than the GDP. At some point that has to come crashing down. If nothing else, it will fail when medical expenditures exceed the GDP.
"Single payer", or socialized medicine can only paper over the problem.
Dishman,
It appears you’re not terribly familiar with her.
I’d be inclined to take that as a compliment!
Ron,
Aren’t Brooks and Buckley, Jr. articulating such a principled conservative vision on a large stage? Although I suppose it’s still not exactly in the blogosphere since Buckley resigned from NRO.
Are you proposing a group site or just looking for a big-name blogger to step up to the plate? Either way I would wholeheartedly support it.Â
zach wrote:
I’d be inclined to take that as a compliment!
It’s not a matter of insult or compliment. It’s about whether or not one has any clue on the subject they’re speaking of. If someone says "Anne Rand", then it’s pretty clear they don’t know who they’re talking about.
Dishman,
or it could be an innocent typo.
I no longer know what conservative OR liberal ideas are.
On domestic matters, Republicans have pretty much run out of gas intellectually, or are at least running on fumes. For years now Democrats have been out of gas on domestic ideas, but they seem to have a few now.
Somehow I think both will muddle through. ;-)
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