You are probably right. :D

I don’t deny that I have an immediate and powerful reaction to anything that smells like "Republican=racist" charges.

We all have hot button issues.

Getting back to the original post here at least let us both agree that this sort of thing definitely qualifies as "Obama Derangement Syndrome" and I frankly hope that the Right does not succomb to the affliction that has virtually destroyed the credibility of the Left.

Well we’ll see. Honestly I think you are going to have 2 Republican camps. I am wondering if McCain is going to be more influential in the days coming up than he would have been as president here.

The conversion of the south to Republicanism is a real thing, and the shift has finally reached state politics and there are, in fact, lots of Republican governors now. But that is a VERY recent development, and it remains to be seen if it marks a fundamental change or a temporary frustration.

If you and I are saying that racists exist in both parties then fine.  I would agree that the KKK is rapidly abandoning its Democrat history and that a large number of them are now voting Republican, but if a majority of them have changed affiliation by now, I’d be surprised. Most of the folks I knew in the south remain Democrats but vote Republican on President and some state races. I think you and I agree that those KKK members who are changing affiliation are not doing so strictly on the grounds of racism. In fact I may think racism has more to do with it than you do.

Heh, you and I both think that "reasonable" readers would agree with our side, that’s probably a revelation of our competing partisan views more than anything.

I don’t deny that I have an immediate and powerful reaction to anything that smells like "Republican=racist" charges. I find that to be the worst sort of politics (worse even than "Republican=stupid"). I am proud of what the Republicans have done about race in this country, both in generations past and today. One of the most frustrating things about modern politics in this country is how successful the Left has been in painting Republicans as racist. I do have to admit that I would NOT be proud of my party if they had managed to do the reverse.

Getting back to the original post here at least let us both agree that this sort of thing definitely qualifies as "Obama Derangement Syndrome" and I frankly hope that the Right does not succomb to the affliction that has virtually destroyed the credibility of the Left.

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I must admit that Christian Newswire is a bit of an unknown entity to me,
but isn’t saying that Michael Savage should be embarrassed for spreading nasty, hateful, stupid evil lies a little like saying a cowturd should be embarrassed for smelling like shit?

I believe any reader with a brain would see yet again how you can only argue with strawmen. It is a fact that the Republican party’s views coincide more with the KKK than the Dems because of their stances on Guns, Religion, and the economy. As far as racism goes that isn’t the reason the KKK tend to vote Republican. I’ve already said that but whatever.

I should point out that the deep south has all Republican governors. Oh but it’s the Senators right? Most states in the deep south, and the mid south have 2 Republican governors. I completely understand that rural vs. urban politics has a lot to do with the way people vote. In fact if you read, I have said the Republican party is not racist. What I also said is that the statement you made concerning the KKK and the Democratic party in today’s political climate is patently false. In fact it is because of the very reasons you just articulated.

Guess what? The South isn’t the only area with KKK people. They live up here too, in rural communities mostly, and those communities vote Republican too for the most part. I understand you are working under experiences you had growing up. I can tell you that people in the rural areas that were racist when I was growing up, in the late 80′s early 90′s, used to tell me that, ‘The Democrats are selling the country to the niggers to get the nigger vote’. So I guess we grew up in different time periods.

The KKK votes Republican now. Sorry it’s true. You can hate em all you want but it doesn’t change how they vote.

Again, I leave the task of interpreting intention from words spoken to the readers. You say "point out where I say Republicans are racist" and then you spend the rest of your post rationalizing why Republicans are the racist party.

I can’t help it if you can’t see what your own words reveal. I can explain it to  you jrogge, but I can’t comprehend it for you.

Let me just make one point in the hope that you can recognize a little bit of reality.

As I said, I know a lot of Southerners who qualify as “racist.” Now I am not saying that Southerners are more racist than Northerners, I didn’t live in the north. I DID live in the South. And those I knew who were the most racist, especially those who were acknowledged KKK members or sympathizers voted Democrat on virtually every ticket EXCEPT the President. That’s why states like Louisiana have had maybe one or two Republican Governors in the past 140 years. In fact I was told pretty much straight up when I reached voting age that there wasn’t any point in registering as anything but Democrat since statewide elections were all but determined in the Democrat primaries anyway.

It’s not all about voting for President jrogge, understand? Why did the South begin voting for Republicans instead of Democrats for President? Mostly due to urban vs. rural politics jrogge. Since 1960 the Democrats have usually been the party of rich white upper class urbanites. Southerners in general view such people with suspicion. The two exceptions (Carter and Clinton) pretty much won because they were exceptions. In fact the two major issues that probably caused the South to break towards Republicans in national elections are probably gun control and abortion.

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Point out where I said Republicans were racist. Please. Because I didn’t say that. I merely pointed out that David Duke is a Republican, the KKK did not support Obama, and that bringing up the KKK in conjunction with the Democratic party is at best a falsehood. In this day and age both parties are on board with civil rights for people of color and all of that. However, the Republicans happen to hit on a number of key issues that resound with the south, and many of the KKK. Especially messages of an anti-socialist bend to them. They also see themselves as the "True White Christians" and see the Republican party as advocates for their beliefs. They have supported the Republican party for some time now. The past is gone.

Now, just because they vote Republican, doesn’t mean that Republicans are racist, but it does show that the party’s ideals are more aligned with the KKK than the Democrats these days. That’s a fact. You may not want them in your party but they’re there. If you want to put words in my mouth though go ahead. As you said, leave it to the reader.

He has a definite liberal bias he either doesn’t recognize or won’t admit to, and he suffers from the same basic lack of intellectual and "professional" integrity that is common to most folks in the mass media.

Just try pinning him down when he’s clearly wrong about something, or inconsistent, and see for yourselves. As soon as he has no choice but to admit he made a mistake or is contradicting himself, he instead simply stops the conversation.

I’ve seen it happen over and over again in private.

So… if you claim that all the racists are voting Republican, that’s just common sense, but if someone shows evidence that you are not correct, they are making ignorant smears because they are uncivil idiots who are setting politics back.

The other guy is always the asshole.  Does that pretty much sum up your concept of politics?

I grew up in the South. I knew people in the KKK. To be in the KKK USED to by synonymous with being in the Democrat party in the South. And not so long ago (re: Robert Byrd)

It’s not so much anymore, I agree, but there’s going to have to be a lot of generational change in the South before the KKK becomes majority Republican.

Frankly jrogge, I don’t care if you believe me. Facts are facts. Reality is reality. Your smug condescending assumption that Republicans are racist is clear and evident to anyone who cares to read your posts. I’m frankly sick to death of that kind of mindless indoctrinated opinion of the party that ENDED slavery and FORCED through the Civil Rights act.

The Republicans have a long and PROUD history of fighting racism, and the media and people like you may have warped that history for political purposes…

But it hasn’t changed history. And if racists do migrate to the Republican Party now, in MY opinion it’s because the media has TOLD them that’s where they belong. Actual Republicans and conservatives like myself don’t want them in our party.

As usual in these “debates” with people like you, I leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine for themselves whose quantity of “shit” is greater.

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Here’s a quote from the KKK.
"…ask why God has allowed this to happen. Could it be because America has turned its back on its white Christian foundation? We believe the answer is a resounding YES!"

Jesus man I am bigoted now. Actually I was agreeing with ya CC. Right up until you had to put in a stupid comment about how Democrats are the ones who are in the KKK. You just couldn’t make a civil comment on something without trying an ignorant smear.

This is why your ilk will continue to take the back seat in politics for awhile. You ignore the facts and the facts you do use are a half a century old.

Yes in history, Democrats were quite racist. Interestingly enough, since the 1980′s the racists have seen the Democrats as a party that panders to "the minority" and thus support more conservative candidates.

It was not my intention to opine that the KKK is fully Republican, it was only to point out how full of shit you are.