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	<title>Comments on: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates</title>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-defense-robert-gates/#comment-166123</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;My take is that despite the hard leftâ€™s feverish hopes, both picks indicateâ€¦ well, what Obama eventually admitted, which is that heâ€™s not gonna do anything hasty. Which indicates to me heâ€™s got more common sense than many of his supporters. He picked as his two most important foreign policy figures someone who voted for the Iraq liberation, and a key Bush administration figure.Â  Since we were right to go into Iraq and weâ€™re right to be there now, Iâ€™m very very happy to see all this.

&lt;/em&gt;I agree with you but not exactly for the same reasons. I believe he is proactively steering his administration away from a configuration that would result in a groupthink phenomenon. His picks show a good amount of prudence to be sure. We are going to be in Iraq when he takes office, and we may go to Afghanistan, Gates is really the only choice unless he declines or resigns, which I doubt will happen. Hilary is a political move I believe. What is interesting is she has to say yes or lose face. The gravy on top is she is probably qualified and will probably do a good job in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>My take is that despite the hard leftâ€™s feverish hopes, both picks indicateâ€¦ well, what Obama eventually admitted, which is that heâ€™s not gonna do anything hasty. Which indicates to me heâ€™s got more common sense than many of his supporters. He picked as his two most important foreign policy figures someone who voted for the Iraq liberation, and a key Bush administration figure.Â  Since we were right to go into Iraq and weâ€™re right to be there now, Iâ€™m very very happy to see all this.</p>
<p></em>I agree with you but not exactly for the same reasons. I believe he is proactively steering his administration away from a configuration that would result in a groupthink phenomenon. His picks show a good amount of prudence to be sure. We are going to be in Iraq when he takes office, and we may go to Afghanistan, Gates is really the only choice unless he declines or resigns, which I doubt will happen. Hilary is a political move I believe. What is interesting is she has to say yes or lose face. The gravy on top is she is probably qualified and will probably do a good job in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: jaymaster</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-defense-robert-gates/#comment-166114</link>
		<dc:creator>jaymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought Hillary would make a good secretary.Â  

Ba dum bump, Chingâ€¦â€¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought Hillary would make a good secretary.Â  </p>
<p>Ba dum bump, Chingâ€¦â€¦.</p>
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		<title>By: Dishman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-defense-robert-gates/#comment-166108</link>
		<dc:creator>Dishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hillary has the potential to do a solid job at State.Â  It all depends on where the bodies turn up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hillary has the potential to do a solid job at State.Â  It all depends on where the bodies turn up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-defense-robert-gates/#comment-166097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite agree, Kevin, although, I think the &quot;advice and consent of the Senate&quot; requirement of the Constitution means the Senate has the right to scrutinize judges a little more than cabinet secretaries and ambassadors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite agree, Kevin, although, I think the &quot;advice and consent of the Senate&quot; requirement of the Constitution means the Senate has the right to scrutinize judges a little more than cabinet secretaries and ambassadors.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m of the opinion that it&#039;s Obama&#039;s right to choose whomever he wishes for his cabinet and it&#039;s the Congress&#039; job to pretty much give it a rubber stamp with little fanfare short of a pick being blatantly unqualified.Â  I mean that with Supreme Court picks as well - even if I disagree with them ideologically.

In short:Â  Obama deserves the kind of leeway and respect his office commands.Â  The kind of respect his predecessor never got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion that it&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s right to choose whomever he wishes for his cabinet and it&#8217;s the Congress&#8217; job to pretty much give it a rubber stamp with little fanfare short of a pick being blatantly unqualified.Â  I mean that with Supreme Court picks as well &#8211; even if I disagree with them ideologically.</p>
<p>In short:Â  Obama deserves the kind of leeway and respect his office commands.Â  The kind of respect his predecessor never got.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take is that despite the hard left&#039;s feverish hopes, both picks indicate... well, what Obama eventually admitted, which is that he&#039;s not gonna do anything hasty. Which indicates to me he&#039;s got more common sense than many of his supporters. He picked as his two most important foreign policy figures someone who voted for the Iraq liberation, and a key Bush administration figure.Â  Since we were right to go into Iraq and we&#039;re right to be there now, I&#039;m very very happy to see all this. 

And yes, I take some glee in the fact that Obama let the netroots think he was 100% on their side on Iraq, and just proved that he really is not and has no plans to be.

Both make me very happy. The second is much more childish than the first, but hey, I&#039;m happy both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take is that despite the hard left&#8217;s feverish hopes, both picks indicate&#8230; well, what Obama eventually admitted, which is that he&#8217;s not gonna do anything hasty. Which indicates to me he&#8217;s got more common sense than many of his supporters. He picked as his two most important foreign policy figures someone who voted for the Iraq liberation, and a key Bush administration figure.Â  Since we were right to go into Iraq and we&#8217;re right to be there now, I&#8217;m very very happy to see all this. </p>
<p>And yes, I take some glee in the fact that Obama let the netroots think he was 100% on their side on Iraq, and just proved that he really is not and has no plans to be.</p>
<p>Both make me very happy. The second is much more childish than the first, but hey, I&#8217;m happy both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: jaymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clintonâ€™s confirmation hearings could provide some high drama. Â Thatâ€™s a prime opportunity for Clinton enemies on the right AND the left to fluff the dirty laundry. Â Itâ€™s kind of a â€œput up or shut upâ€, or maybe a â€œspeak now or forever hold your peaceâ€ moment, and all of it on the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clintonâ€™s confirmation hearings could provide some high drama. Â Thatâ€™s a prime opportunity for Clinton enemies on the right AND the left to fluff the dirty laundry. Â Itâ€™s kind of a â€œput up or shut upâ€, or maybe a â€œspeak now or forever hold your peaceâ€ moment, and all of it on the record.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rall (Maniakes)</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-defense-robert-gates/#comment-166092</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rall (Maniakes)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A diplomat or an academic foreign policy expert, particularly one who specializes in an area we expect to be a trouble spot. Or a retired general who&#039;s worked well with important allies.

Of course, resume is no guarantee of performance. Rice, Powell, and Albright all had excellent resumes, and all of them were mediocre at best.

Of high-profile Democrats, the first name that leaps to mind as having a better resume to be Secretary of State would be Bill Richardson, who&#039;s been a cabinet secretary before and was our ambassador to the UN for two years and was heavily involved in the Palestinian peace process.

Another strong-resumed candidate would be Wesley Clark, who was supreme allied commander of NATO for four years, although he has significant drawbacks as well (the Kosovo Airfield Incident doesn&#039;t reflect well on him, and he&#039;s been on the bench for eight years).

There are probably several other good candidates Obama could have picked whom I haven&#039;t heard of because they haven&#039;t had big-name political careers on top of their diplomatic experience.

Yes, senators and first ladies do pick up diplomatic experience. That&#039;s why I said Clinton strikes me as someone who could probably do the job competently. She just doesn&#039;t jump out at me as &quot;Wow, that&#039;s a great pick&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A diplomat or an academic foreign policy expert, particularly one who specializes in an area we expect to be a trouble spot. Or a retired general who&#8217;s worked well with important allies.</p>
<p>Of course, resume is no guarantee of performance. Rice, Powell, and Albright all had excellent resumes, and all of them were mediocre at best.</p>
<p>Of high-profile Democrats, the first name that leaps to mind as having a better resume to be Secretary of State would be Bill Richardson, who&#8217;s been a cabinet secretary before and was our ambassador to the UN for two years and was heavily involved in the Palestinian peace process.</p>
<p>Another strong-resumed candidate would be Wesley Clark, who was supreme allied commander of NATO for four years, although he has significant drawbacks as well (the Kosovo Airfield Incident doesn&#8217;t reflect well on him, and he&#8217;s been on the bench for eight years).</p>
<p>There are probably several other good candidates Obama could have picked whom I haven&#8217;t heard of because they haven&#8217;t had big-name political careers on top of their diplomatic experience.</p>
<p>Yes, senators and first ladies do pick up diplomatic experience. That&#8217;s why I said Clinton strikes me as someone who could probably do the job competently. She just doesn&#8217;t jump out at me as &quot;Wow, that&#8217;s a great pick&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Other than a former secretary of state, what type of person would you consider most qualified?&lt;/blockquote&gt;There&#039;s lots of ambassadors.Â  I would go with John &quot;the &#039;stache&quot; Bolton, myself.Â  I bet DKos would meltdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Other than a former secretary of state, what type of person would you consider most qualified?</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s lots of ambassadors.Â  I would go with John &quot;the &#8216;stache&quot; Bolton, myself.Â  I bet DKos would meltdown.</p>
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		<title>By: zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

well, almost all of her positions from law partner to first lady to senator all involve some amount of both diplomacy and managerial duty. Â 

Other than a former secretary of state, what type of person would you consider most qualified? Â Is there someone Obama obviously looked over that makes Clinton&#039;s appointment look obviously political rather than just that Obama thought she&#039;s the best person for the job? Â Obviously every political appointment is going to be based in part on politics (both of your guesses at Obama&#039;s motivations are probably part of the whole truth), but it doesn&#039;t strike me as a &lt;i&gt;purely&lt;/i&gt;Â political pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>well, almost all of her positions from law partner to first lady to senator all involve some amount of both diplomacy and managerial duty. Â </p>
<p>Other than a former secretary of state, what type of person would you consider most qualified? Â Is there someone Obama obviously looked over that makes Clinton&#8217;s appointment look obviously political rather than just that Obama thought she&#8217;s the best person for the job? Â Obviously every political appointment is going to be based in part on politics (both of your guesses at Obama&#8217;s motivations are probably part of the whole truth), but it doesn&#8217;t strike me as a <i>purely</i>Â political pick.</p>
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