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	<title>Comments on: OJ Simpson Sentenced To 15 Years</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/05/oj-simpson-sentenced-to-15-years/#comment-166308</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The War On Drugs is a sympton of the problem, not the cause. Faith in the justice system exists because the justice system keeps doing stupid stuff. And then there&#039;s the laws that keep getting passed.

Like requiring a &lt;a href=&quot;../../01/teen-boy-must-register-as-sex-offender-for-life-after-having-sex-with-his-girlfriend/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;teenage boy to register as a sex offender for life&lt;/a&gt; because the female teen with whom he had sex lied and was just barely a teen rather than being old enough to hold a learner&#039;s permit.

The justice system fails us because, like Congress, it&#039;s trying to do too much and does little of it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The War On Drugs is a sympton of the problem, not the cause. Faith in the justice system exists because the justice system keeps doing stupid stuff. And then there&#8217;s the laws that keep getting passed.</p>
<p>Like requiring a <a href="../../01/teen-boy-must-register-as-sex-offender-for-life-after-having-sex-with-his-girlfriend/" rel="nofollow">teenage boy to register as a sex offender for life</a> because the female teen with whom he had sex lied and was just barely a teen rather than being old enough to hold a learner&#8217;s permit.</p>
<p>The justice system fails us because, like Congress, it&#8217;s trying to do too much and does little of it well.</p>
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		<title>By: John_B</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/05/oj-simpson-sentenced-to-15-years/#comment-166294</link>
		<dc:creator>John_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now Boy George gets convicted of kidnapping, too!

What&#039;s up with all the celebrity kidnapping?

&lt;em&gt;John_B&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://xrdarabia.org/2008/12/05/interesting-cartoon/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interesting Cartoon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now Boy George gets convicted of kidnapping, too!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s up with all the celebrity kidnapping?</p>
<p><em>John_B&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://xrdarabia.org/2008/12/05/interesting-cartoon/' rel="nofollow">Interesting Cartoon</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, all he had to do was stay put and live his life in obscurity. However, criminal behavior tends to be habitual and he went way over the deep end on this. I&#039;d like to call it cosmic justice, but in reality he was only charged with these crimes. For the murder, he has never been punished. Still, there was no defense for this crime, none whatsoever. If there had been a shred of doubt, he probably would have gotten away with it again.

Did the War on Drugs erode our faith in the justice system? Absolutely. I could not agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, all he had to do was stay put and live his life in obscurity. However, criminal behavior tends to be habitual and he went way over the deep end on this. I&#8217;d like to call it cosmic justice, but in reality he was only charged with these crimes. For the murder, he has never been punished. Still, there was no defense for this crime, none whatsoever. If there had been a shred of doubt, he probably would have gotten away with it again.</p>
<p>Did the War on Drugs erode our faith in the justice system? Absolutely. I could not agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2008/12/05/oj-simpson-sentenced-to-15-years/#comment-166276</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The War on Drugs is a thorny dilemna. Drug use wrecks minds and lives. Particularly, young vulnerable kids. The natural societal instinct is, therefore, to prevent this harm and prohibit it.


The problem, though, is that the ensuing, black market Drug Trade, may become worse than the Drug Use.

The Bootlegger loves the Abolitionist.

No, easy answers........

HB

p.s. O.J. killed Nicole. This delayed jail sentence is cosmic justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The War on Drugs is a thorny dilemna. Drug use wrecks minds and lives. Particularly, young vulnerable kids. The natural societal instinct is, therefore, to prevent this harm and prohibit it.</p>
<p>The problem, though, is that the ensuing, black market Drug Trade, may become worse than the Drug Use.</p>
<p>The Bootlegger loves the Abolitionist.</p>
<p>No, easy answers&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>HB</p>
<p>p.s. O.J. killed Nicole. This delayed jail sentence is cosmic justice.</p>
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		<title>By: jaymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at home today, so I got to watch it live, andÂ see a lot of the talking heads dissect the case. Â The judge was pretty good about it all, I thought. Â She went out of her way to state that the previous case had no impact on this one.Â Â 

She also said it is one of the most cut and dried cases in her entire career, because every bit of the deed, from planning, to execution, to the â€œpost wrap partyâ€ was caught on video and audio tape.Â Â Â 


A lot of the talking heads thought the charges were a bit lame, but since it was all on video, the conclusion was the DA didnâ€™t have much of a choice but to file all the charges, and the jury didnâ€™t have much choice but to convict. Â Â  

And apparently, if a gun hadnâ€™t been involved, most everything else would have been misdemeanors. Â But the gun changed everything.Â  The longest sentence came on the kidnapping charge. Â And apparently there is pretty clear audio of OJ busting in and saying something like â€œAinâ€™t nobody leaving this room!â€ And that was that.Â  

As you probably know, I am a big gun rights guy. Â But I also support throwing the book at anyone who violates current gun laws, so I am OK with the way this worked out. I hope something similar happens with Plexico Burress.Â 
 
All in all, this was literally the gang that couldnâ€™t shoot straight. It doesnâ€™t appear to be a set up. One of OJâ€™s buddies secretly recorded it all because he thought he could sell the tapes for big bucks.Â  And he did exactly that.Â  
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The judge called it a mixture of ignorance and arrogance. Â Even though they might not have intended to kidnap anyone, or even necessarily break any laws at all, the recordings showed that they most certainly did. Â Â And in the end, she basically gave him the absolute minimum sentence allowed by law. Â Â  

Itâ€™s also interesting that if it had of happened in many other states, nothing might have ever come from it. Â The tapes wouldnâ€™t have been admissible in some states, and his actions might not have been illegal in others. Â </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at home today, so I got to watch it live, andÂ see a lot of the talking heads dissect the case. Â The judge was pretty good about it all, I thought. Â She went out of her way to state that the previous case had no impact on this one.Â Â </p>
<p>She also said it is one of the most cut and dried cases in her entire career, because every bit of the deed, from planning, to execution, to the â€œpost wrap partyâ€ was caught on video and audio tape.Â Â Â </p>
<p>A lot of the talking heads thought the charges were a bit lame, but since it was all on video, the conclusion was the DA didnâ€™t have much of a choice but to file all the charges, and the jury didnâ€™t have much choice but to convict. Â Â  </p>
<p>And apparently, if a gun hadnâ€™t been involved, most everything else would have been misdemeanors. Â But the gun changed everything.Â  The longest sentence came on the kidnapping charge. Â And apparently there is pretty clear audio of OJ busting in and saying something like â€œAinâ€™t nobody leaving this room!â€ And that was that.Â  </p>
<p>As you probably know, I am a big gun rights guy. Â But I also support throwing the book at anyone who violates current gun laws, so I am OK with the way this worked out. I hope something similar happens with Plexico Burress.Â </p>
<p>All in all, this was literally the gang that couldnâ€™t shoot straight. It doesnâ€™t appear to be a set up. One of OJâ€™s buddies secretly recorded it all because he thought he could sell the tapes for big bucks.Â  And he did exactly that.Â <br />
Â <br />
The judge called it a mixture of ignorance and arrogance. Â Even though they might not have intended to kidnap anyone, or even necessarily break any laws at all, the recordings showed that they most certainly did. Â Â And in the end, she basically gave him the absolute minimum sentence allowed by law. Â Â  </p>
<p>Itâ€™s also interesting that if it had of happened in many other states, nothing might have ever come from it. Â The tapes wouldnâ€™t have been admissible in some states, and his actions might not have been illegal in others. Â </p>
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		<title>By: ArnoldHarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArnoldHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had I sat on the jury in this latest O J Simpson case, I would never have voted to convict him of more than a misdemeanor for the way in which he chose to contest the taking of his property by souvenir hunters.

As for his first case more than 10 years ago, he was acquited. Therefore, nothing from that case should have carried over to the recent court process. 

In the american system of justice, a defendant either is guilty or innocent, and in a trial by jury, only that 12-person bodyÂ can determine guilt or innocence.

And no, I have no personal concern for O J Simpson, never having been a football fan or even much of a television viewer.Â  And celebrities in general mean nothing to me.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had I sat on the jury in this latest O J Simpson case, I would never have voted to convict him of more than a misdemeanor for the way in which he chose to contest the taking of his property by souvenir hunters.</p>
<p>As for his first case more than 10 years ago, he was acquited. Therefore, nothing from that case should have carried over to the recent court process. </p>
<p>In the american system of justice, a defendant either is guilty or innocent, and in a trial by jury, only that 12-person bodyÂ can determine guilt or innocence.</p>
<p>And no, I have no personal concern for O J Simpson, never having been a football fan or even much of a television viewer.Â  And celebrities in general mean nothing to me.</p>
<p>Arnold Harris<br />
Mount Horeb WI</p>
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		<title>By: jaymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Â  I am no fan of the WOD, but I think itâ€™s a stretch to tie OJâ€™s first acquittal to the WOD.

I thought back then back then, and still do today, that I would not have convicted OJ based on the evidence the jury saw. Â Now, if they had seen everything we the public saw, it might have been different.Â  Â  

IMO, the blame goes to the incompetent (and probably corrupt) law enforcement agencies and the equally incompetent DAâ€™s office. Â Their performance was appalling.Â  

And for the record, I am a semi-rural, mostly white guyâ€¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Â  I am no fan of the WOD, but I think itâ€™s a stretch to tie OJâ€™s first acquittal to the WOD.</p>
<p>I thought back then back then, and still do today, that I would not have convicted OJ based on the evidence the jury saw. Â Now, if they had seen everything we the public saw, it might have been different.Â  Â  </p>
<p>IMO, the blame goes to the incompetent (and probably corrupt) law enforcement agencies and the equally incompetent DAâ€™s office. Â Their performance was appalling.Â  </p>
<p>And for the record, I am a semi-rural, mostly white guyâ€¦.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mob didn&#039;t do all that well after the end of prohibition; some of them gave up, some went into other lines of business. Some even went legit. The mob was at the height of its power during the prohibition years.

Then of course by the 1960s they discovered how big the illegal drug market was, and off they went. Often in partnership with street gangs.

There will still be crime, organized and disorganized, no matter what. But there&#039;s every reason to think that the power of crime lords will be seriously eroded, as all they&#039;d have left is prostitution, loan sharking, theft, fraud, etc. Which I think can keep them busy if they need work. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mob didn&#8217;t do all that well after the end of prohibition; some of them gave up, some went into other lines of business. Some even went legit. The mob was at the height of its power during the prohibition years.</p>
<p>Then of course by the 1960s they discovered how big the illegal drug market was, and off they went. Often in partnership with street gangs.</p>
<p>There will still be crime, organized and disorganized, no matter what. But there&#8217;s every reason to think that the power of crime lords will be seriously eroded, as all they&#8217;d have left is prostitution, loan sharking, theft, fraud, etc. Which I think can keep them busy if they need work. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I necessarily disagree, but the mob did pretty well after the repeal of prohibition, too - just by moving into other markets. Â Is there any reason to think the same won&#039;t happen here? Â In other words, has the damage been done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I necessarily disagree, but the mob did pretty well after the repeal of prohibition, too &#8211; just by moving into other markets. Â Is there any reason to think the same won&#8217;t happen here? Â In other words, has the damage been done?</p>
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