On November 18, 1978, in the largest induced mass death of Americans until 9/11, over nine hundred people in a small community in Guyana committed suicide, most voluntarily. Major media and Congressional investigations shortly before the tragedy gave no hint of what was to occur and were in fact generally supportive of the religio-socialist experiment. Before the mass suicide, the group’s leaders made a will leaving their major assets to the Communist Part of the Soviet Union. Below is one of the notes left behind:
 Dad I see no way out – I agree with your decision – I fear only that without you the world may not make it to communism – Tish For my part – I am more than tired of this wretched, merciless planet & the hell it holds for the masses of so many beautiful people – thank you for the only life I’ve known.
Communists were generally not known for religious fervor or exercises in suicide, but it now appears Barack Obama has committed to a policy of nuclear deterrence with Islamic extremists, who practice both with marked enthusiasm.
A promise of massive American nuclear retaliation against an Iranian nuclear attack is problematic. Unless the attack were overt, it might be very difficult to trace the attack back to Iran, and regardless of whether this task took a matter of hours, days, or weeks there would be enormous pressure to call off a retaliatory strike that would kill tens of millions of Iranian civilians — and Iran would doubtless threaten to annihilate Europe’s capitals the minute it detected such a response. So the threat is essentially empty unless Iran is foolish enough to deploy its weapons without subterfuge — and that could be as simple as loading the device into a container ship.
More frighteningly, Iran’s ruling religious zealots simply may not particularly care if there is a retaliatory strike, viewing it as a holy event that will transport them to paradise. Like the leaders of Jonestown, they may believe they are doing the people of Iran a great favor, granting them an eternity of heavenly reward. At the very least, this outlook may lead them to calculate that a nuclear holocaust is an acceptable risk, hoping their bluff is not called but willing to accept that outcome if it is.
Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to this issue. An American or Israeli pre-emptive strike can only delay the inevitable. We can hope for internal regime change and rational Persian leadership, but in the meantime we should be investing heavily in missile defense – and prayer.Â


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If your hopes for a peaceable Iran are based on regime change in that country, then you should park your hopes in the nearest toilet bowl and pull the lever.
There will be nuclear destruction in this country unless Iran us subdued and diverted from its path by outside military intervention. And that is as inevitable as the rising and setting of the sun.
I too see nuclear weapons being smuggled into this country in container ships. That precisely is what world trade will net the owners of this country; their own destruction.
The long term question is not Iran and its crazed mullahs, but Islam in general. Its believers fully intend to conquer the non-islamic world by whatever means needed and available. And right now, I see no counterforce willing to stand against them.
Therefore, unless something not known to us today changes the calculus the road to world power through belief modification, then they will win in the end, and the freedom and liberty of the rest of the world shall be extinguished under the imperative of Islam, which is worldwide submission to their concept of their god.Â
Arnold Harris
Dave,
Except for the fact that Jones was not religious. Â His entire church was a carefully constructed sham meant to further his communist ideals.
Also see the many previous discussions on this topic where others have made excellent cases that the Iranian leaders are rational and self-preserving, rather than anything remotely suicidal.
Well, Jones was certainly a committed Communist, however, I’m not sure that his church was a sham per se. It definitely started out as a pretty typical Pentacostalist/revivalist sort of cult, and then got into so-called "liberation theology" (fundamentalist branch) that was popular for a while there, and finally just started casting aside most traditional theology and started saying that Socialism equaled Salvation and a bunch of gobbledygook like that. Basically, they were nuts. You can make a case that they were only quasi-religious, but that element was absolutely there.
I think you’re probably right that Iran’s leaders (including the ones you rarely see even though they hold the vast bulk of the power) are more self-serving than suicidal.
I hope you are correct. Hope, hope, hope.
zach,
Right, that was my point. Communists, unlike Islamic extremists, aren’t even particularly into this sort of thing and look what happened. Iran’s leaders are bona fide religious wackos, how much riskier is that?
As for the idea they are “rational and self-preserving,” this isn’t true for very many values of “rational,” and they certainly give less evidence of being “self-preserving” than the Soviets did.
I don’t have much confidence in Haaretz when they’re quoting an anonymous source.
Anyway retaliation isn’t much consolation for Israel. One nuclear strike could pretty much do it for them.
All that hope, hope, hope gets you is that first you will be robbed. Then your rights will be taken away. Then you will be put to death.
The only real hope is based on purposeful action. When dealing with IslamoNazism or any other unpleasant but quite real phenomena.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Again, I’m on the same page with Mr. Harris.
Hope is for the religious. As Dean is, this applies to him in a way, however, his hope here isn’t in God but the passions of man.
Frankly, hoping a man doesn’t a thing is about as useful as it sounds. The better course of action would be assume he will do a thing, prepare for it, and wait for him to provide amply proof he won’t. If you’re lucky, and he’s at all sane, the big stick you’re carrying will be the motivation he needs to provide that proof.
Like Teddy Roosevelt said, speak softly but carry a big stick. Hope and soft talk is nice. It’s even nicer to show that there more to you than pretty words.
Place your hope in God, prepare yourself for man.
" Therefore, unless something not known to us today changes the calculus the road to world power through belief modification, then they will win in the end, and the freedom and liberty of the rest of the world shall be extinguished under the imperative of Islam, which is worldwide submission to their concept of their god. "
Arnoldharris,
Well in that case it’s best to prepare now and convert to islam before our islamic overlords arrive.
Here’s a link to a site showing how to properly pray in islam http://www.jannah.com/learn/flashprayer1.html
Salam aleykum
Aleykum salaam.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Just sounds to me like an argument for carrying democracy in whatever form it takes in other lands on the point of a spear to every nation on Earth.
"Live Free, Or Die." Not a motto, an ultimatum.
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