Why Ayers Matters

by Dave Price on December 23, 2008

in Politics

An FBI informant who infiltrated the Weather Undergroud objects to the whitewashing of a treasonous terrorist:

My name is Larry Grathwohl and I infiltrated the Weather Underground for the FBI. I had no idea when my journey began in August 1969 that I would see and experience the degree of violence and hatred of our democracy that existed in the Weather Underground. Bernardine Dorhn, Bill Ayers, and the other people I would meet had as their sole purpose the destruction of the United States. The fact that I ultimately became the only source of information regarding the activities of the Weather Underground and the fact that Bill Ayers now claims their goal was only to bring about the end of the war in Vietnam requires me to respond.

Read the whole thing.  Oddly, the NYT didn’t seem interested in publishing this.

This issue is not going away anytime soon, unless Obama is impeached and removed over the apparent influence-peddling scheme he was involved in with Rezko, Blago (who would’ve thought it was even possible to have a 4% approval rating?) and the Illinois machine.  As long as Obama remains in office his past association with the terrorist fringe is going to be a topic of interest – which may have a salutary effect, as it tends to force him to govern as a moderate in response.

{ 9 comments }

1 Dean Esmay December 23, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Ah. Now we can see there is substantial reason to believe Ayers lies when he said his intent was not to hurt anyone and purely to protest the war.

But, will any of it stick to Obama? I’m not sure how it would, given that Obama was a young child when Ayers was trying to kill people and bring down the government. I would expect the administration to say they have no comment on Ayers and then change the subject.

The mainstream press is unlikely to pursue this, because they love Obama. So how far can it go?

2 Kevin D. December 23, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Save it until they don’t love him?  Though, looking back upon the Clinton years, I have to wonder what Obama would have to do to cause that to happen.

3 zach December 23, 2008 at 2:46 pm

kevin,

you’re right, who but the press likes clinton anymore?

4 jrogge December 23, 2008 at 5:20 pm

You’ll have better luck waiting for him to screw up in office than trying to peddle this line of attack. Loose associations and fabrications that he’s somehow a British citizen are just going to make any legitimate claim against him harder to believe.

5 Dean Esmay December 23, 2008 at 8:32 pm

I actually think the Ayers issues matters, just not very much as regards to President Obama. The voters got to hear about most of this and most yawned and didn’t care because it was obvious to them that Obama was a small child at the time Ayers was active as a terrorist leader, and Ayers HAS NOT been violent since. There’s no reason to even suspect that Obama knew any of the details about Ayers’ decades-old record in more than scant detail. Why would he? The man’s a respected Chicago professor in the upper echelons of the Democratic machine there.

What’s troubling about Ayers is that he’s been allowed by so many to just have his history wiped away. That’s VERY troubling. There were a whole spate of really despicable characters in the "anti-war" movement of the 1960s, and it’s bothered me for many many years that most people just don’t know this stuff. The Left carries around this aura that they are the moral ones, the righteous ones, the ones who are non-violent, the ones who are constantly misunderstood: and the lesson of Ayers, Dohrn, and a whole bunch of others from that era is living proof that it’s not so. Cold-blooded murdering terrorists were part of that "anti-war" movement back then, and we should remember it the same way we remember George Orwell’s chilling lesson when he saw what the Communists were REALLY all about in Spain.

I was actually stunned a bit when Ayers came into the news this election cycle, since I’ve known for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS about this stuff. I mean, before Bush was elected. I learned all about this stuff back around 1990, 1991, maybe 1992.

You know, it’s as if Hollywood doesn’t do a few movies about it, it never happened. It’s weird.

These people were terrorists, rapists, and murderers. Ayers was a major force within them. What’s shameful is not that Barack Obama attended a fundraiser at the guy’s house, 25 years after it all went down. What’s shameful is that the culture at large, and especially the liberal elite in Chicagoland, gave all that a free pass.

6 Dave Price December 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

I’m not sure how it would, given that Obama was a young child when Ayers was trying to kill people and bring down the government.

Try to imagine Eric Rudolph or Timothy McVeigh being given university jobs after getting off on a technicality.  Now try to imagine a GOP Presidential candidate had worked in an office with them, sent them grant money, and started a political campaign from one of their houses, even 10-20 years from now.  It’s unthinkable.  The press would camp out on their lawn for nine months, and there would be constant interviews with victims and family. The campaign would be over before it started.

The office of POTUS is the most-scrutinized in the world. You are going to hear about this association as long as Obama’s in office.

7 jrogge December 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Yes, I know I will hear about it. the more I hear it, the less likely I’ll pay attention to a legitimate complaint. If you remember correctly, a lot of people got pardoned for a lot of things in that era. The whole 60′s early 70′s was a big clusterspunk if you remember. Ayers matters, but so does Nixon, all those draft dodgers that were pardoned, and so forth. You see, in the end it is just another guy that was either pardoned or let off the hook some other way. You act like Ayers is the only guy that this happened to when in reality it’s a very common thing.

8 Dave Price December 24, 2008 at 5:11 pm

Associating with terrorists is a legitimate complaint.  See above.

9 ArnoldHarris December 25, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Dave,

If you are looking for justice in the world, you are wasting your time looking underneath the rocks and peering into the occasionally exposed shit-pits of american presidential politics. Nobody but nobody is going to impeach Obama over Ayers, Blagojevic or any of the rest of this crap.

All people in this country really want is for for this guy to come up with some common-sense solutions to stopping the new Great Depression, put all the union autoworkers back on the assembly line, instantly create an energy source to take the place of all that foreign source, and cause all the fat folks to feel good about themselves again after the last Big Mac attack.

Happy holidays.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI 

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