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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167293</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t take the time to talk about the various scandals Bush&#039;s cronies were involved in. I&#039;ll just say this. If Obama ends up the same as the old boss, like with Bush, I won&#039;t lose any sleep over it. I will go on doing what I do. You just can&#039;t accept the fact the the Republican party has gone batshit crazy and needs to be kicked out of office until they learn how to govern again. In fact you are a prime example. I don&#039;t think you understand the whole team of rivals thing yet. Read up on it.

In either case, until he gets warmed up, starts setting policy into action, and starts actually running the country, I can&#039;t pass judgement on the man. It took Bush a couple of years to show his spots, I didn&#039;t criticize him either at that point.

You people with your premature judgements sound like Henny Penny. Like I said, sour grapes.

You&#039;re right, if I am completely wrong then I will regret my words. You on the other hand will spit the same partisan hackery and drivel regardless of how wrong you are. Unlike you I have a conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t take the time to talk about the various scandals Bush&#8217;s cronies were involved in. I&#8217;ll just say this. If Obama ends up the same as the old boss, like with Bush, I won&#8217;t lose any sleep over it. I will go on doing what I do. You just can&#8217;t accept the fact the the Republican party has gone batshit crazy and needs to be kicked out of office until they learn how to govern again. In fact you are a prime example. I don&#8217;t think you understand the whole team of rivals thing yet. Read up on it.</p>
<p>In either case, until he gets warmed up, starts setting policy into action, and starts actually running the country, I can&#8217;t pass judgement on the man. It took Bush a couple of years to show his spots, I didn&#8217;t criticize him either at that point.</p>
<p>You people with your premature judgements sound like Henny Penny. Like I said, sour grapes.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, if I am completely wrong then I will regret my words. You on the other hand will spit the same partisan hackery and drivel regardless of how wrong you are. Unlike you I have a conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167288</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabinet picks:

Hillary Clinton, whose judment on the Iraq War he called into question. And who is the center of a NY Times article about potential influence peddling, not to mention the myriad of scandals she&#039;s been linked to in the past.

Leon Panetta, who his own party&#039;s senators have called irresponsibly unqualified.

Bill Richardson, who withdrew from the nomination becuase he faces potential federal prison.

Joe Biden.Â Â  I mean, Joe Biden!

I could go on.

Yeah, the man is a model of good judgment. So good that he&#039;s not even President and the Senate Majority leader is already saying &quot;I don&#039;t work for Barack Obama.&quot;

As I&#039;ve said before, you live in an alternate universe jrogge.

As far as sour grapes goes jrogge, you may also regret THOSE words. So far what I&#039;ve seen of Obama looks a whole lot like Clinton and Bush from a policy and ideology perspective. Centrist, leaning right, picks an evangelical preacher to do his invocation, says he&#039;ll continue most of the current policies of the Bush administration...

So far all I&#039;ve seen is a lot of &quot;meet the new boss, same as the old boss.&quot;

Sour grapes indeed. LOL

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4598&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What good is a high school education?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabinet picks:</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton, whose judment on the Iraq War he called into question. And who is the center of a NY Times article about potential influence peddling, not to mention the myriad of scandals she&#8217;s been linked to in the past.</p>
<p>Leon Panetta, who his own party&#8217;s senators have called irresponsibly unqualified.</p>
<p>Bill Richardson, who withdrew from the nomination becuase he faces potential federal prison.</p>
<p>Joe Biden.Â Â  I mean, Joe Biden!</p>
<p>I could go on.</p>
<p>Yeah, the man is a model of good judgment. So good that he&#8217;s not even President and the Senate Majority leader is already saying &quot;I don&#8217;t work for Barack Obama.&quot;</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, you live in an alternate universe jrogge.</p>
<p>As far as sour grapes goes jrogge, you may also regret THOSE words. So far what I&#8217;ve seen of Obama looks a whole lot like Clinton and Bush from a policy and ideology perspective. Centrist, leaning right, picks an evangelical preacher to do his invocation, says he&#8217;ll continue most of the current policies of the Bush administration&#8230;</p>
<p>So far all I&#8217;ve seen is a lot of &#8220;meet the new boss, same as the old boss.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sour grapes indeed. LOL</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4598' rel="nofollow">What good is a high school education?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167286</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Weâ€™ll see if you attack Obama jrogge, so far I havenâ€™t seen you complaining much about his already reported continuation of Bush policies youâ€™ve railed against.

&lt;/em&gt;If you&#039;re talking about Iraq, what have I railed against other than a loss of focus on Afghanistan and not using a &quot;surge&quot; initially? In fact, I&#039;ve said numerous times that Iraq has already stated a timeline as to when they want soldiers out, and we should stick with the Iraqi deadline. You only read what you want to read it appears. It&#039;s Bush&#039;s utter disregard for anything domestic that I can&#039;t stand. It isn&#039;t what he did, but what he couldn&#039;t do.

In any case, there is no continuation of policy. He is not President yet. We will not know exactly what he will do until he swears in. So far he is proving to be a more capable leader than Bush ever was. He has shown good judgment in picking a cabinet that will avoid the &quot;groupthink&quot; dilemma that plagued Bush&#039;s. He appears better at organizing people and being, well, administrative. If you can&#039;t see that, too bad.

You need to have a soda and wash the sour grapes taste from your palate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Weâ€™ll see if you attack Obama jrogge, so far I havenâ€™t seen you complaining much about his already reported continuation of Bush policies youâ€™ve railed against.</p>
<p></em>If you&#8217;re talking about Iraq, what have I railed against other than a loss of focus on Afghanistan and not using a &quot;surge&quot; initially? In fact, I&#8217;ve said numerous times that Iraq has already stated a timeline as to when they want soldiers out, and we should stick with the Iraqi deadline. You only read what you want to read it appears. It&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s utter disregard for anything domestic that I can&#8217;t stand. It isn&#8217;t what he did, but what he couldn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>In any case, there is no continuation of policy. He is not President yet. We will not know exactly what he will do until he swears in. So far he is proving to be a more capable leader than Bush ever was. He has shown good judgment in picking a cabinet that will avoid the &quot;groupthink&quot; dilemma that plagued Bush&#8217;s. He appears better at organizing people and being, well, administrative. If you can&#8217;t see that, too bad.</p>
<p>You need to have a soda and wash the sour grapes taste from your palate.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167281</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jrogge:

If the Democrats &quot;fix&quot; anything I&#039;ll be the first to give them credit.

If being elected after four yearsÂ is a sign of public approval, Bush has that seal of approval himself.

We&#039;ll see if you attack Obama jrogge, so far I haven&#039;t seen you complaining much about his already reported continuation of Bush policies you&#039;ve railed against.

Let&#039;s see what he actually does about Iraq, Afghanistan, intelligence gathering, Guantanimo, Russia/Georgia, etc.

If his policies end up being more than a fingernail&#039;s width apart from Bush&#039;s I&#039;ll be surprised. But if you don&#039;t criticize him for it, I won&#039;t be.

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4598&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What good is a high school education?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jrogge:</p>
<p>If the Democrats &quot;fix&quot; anything I&#8217;ll be the first to give them credit.</p>
<p>If being elected after four yearsÂ is a sign of public approval, Bush has that seal of approval himself.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see if you attack Obama jrogge, so far I haven&#8217;t seen you complaining much about his already reported continuation of Bush policies you&#8217;ve railed against.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what he actually does about Iraq, Afghanistan, intelligence gathering, Guantanimo, Russia/Georgia, etc.</p>
<p>If his policies end up being more than a fingernail&#8217;s width apart from Bush&#8217;s I&#8217;ll be surprised. But if you don&#8217;t criticize him for it, I won&#8217;t be.</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4598' rel="nofollow">What good is a high school education?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167277</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure and simple common sense? I don&#039;t believe a politician has done anything involving pure and simple common sense since the Civil Rights Act. Bush has done nothing resembling pure and simple common sense. He&#039;s better that Cheney though.

If Obama travels down the same road, I&#039;ll attack him too. Besides, when the public decides after only 4 years of a Republican majority that they need to vote them out of office, they probably noticed something you missed.

When a comedian can get enough votes to make an incumbent senator lose his seat, or even make it a close race it speaks volumes over the lack of substance your claim to &#039;simple common sense&#039; has.

The nation is looking to the Democrats to fix the economy. If you can&#039;t laugh you&#039;re going to be very angry for the next four years.

As every single Republican said in 2004: &quot;The nation has spoken&quot;. When the Republicans fix their party and figure out who their base really is they&#039;ll start getting re-elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure and simple common sense? I don&#8217;t believe a politician has done anything involving pure and simple common sense since the Civil Rights Act. Bush has done nothing resembling pure and simple common sense. He&#8217;s better that Cheney though.</p>
<p>If Obama travels down the same road, I&#8217;ll attack him too. Besides, when the public decides after only 4 years of a Republican majority that they need to vote them out of office, they probably noticed something you missed.</p>
<p>When a comedian can get enough votes to make an incumbent senator lose his seat, or even make it a close race it speaks volumes over the lack of substance your claim to &#8216;simple common sense&#8217; has.</p>
<p>The nation is looking to the Democrats to fix the economy. If you can&#8217;t laugh you&#8217;re going to be very angry for the next four years.</p>
<p>As every single Republican said in 2004: &quot;The nation has spoken&quot;. When the Republicans fix their party and figure out who their base really is they&#8217;ll start getting re-elected.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167262</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jrogge:

I suspect you will regret those words one day. If you haven&#039;t started to regret them already as it becomes clear that Obama is already re-running many of the same &quot;jokes&quot; you find so humorous. Over time you might even come to realize that most of the policies that you and others have attacked Bush so viciously over are pure and simple common sense.

&lt;em&gt;CosmicConservative&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4594&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doesn&#039;t surprise me one bit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jrogge:</p>
<p>I suspect you will regret those words one day. If you haven&#8217;t started to regret them already as it becomes clear that Obama is already re-running many of the same &quot;jokes&quot; you find so humorous. Over time you might even come to realize that most of the policies that you and others have attacked Bush so viciously over are pure and simple common sense.</p>
<p><em>CosmicConservative&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/?p=4594' rel="nofollow">Doesn&#8217;t surprise me one bit</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jrogge</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167251</link>
		<dc:creator>jrogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, cheer up! Al Franken will merely bring a different brand of comedy into the White House. The jokes running for the last 8 years are starting to get old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, cheer up! Al Franken will merely bring a different brand of comedy into the White House. The jokes running for the last 8 years are starting to get old.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rall (Maniakes)</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167250</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rall (Maniakes)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physically assaulting people? I hadn&#039;t heard about that. I&#039;d always figured his vitriol was exaggerated for entertainment purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physically assaulting people? I hadn&#8217;t heard about that. I&#8217;d always figured his vitriol was exaggerated for entertainment purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisha Feger</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167249</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisha Feger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not who votes that counts, it&#039;s who counts the votes.

&lt;em&gt;Elisha Feger&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://demonicgerbil.livejournal.com/631409.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Far Cry 2 (PC) Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not who votes that counts, it&#8217;s who counts the votes.</p>
<p><em>Elisha Feger&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://demonicgerbil.livejournal.com/631409.html' rel="nofollow">Far Cry 2 (PC) Review</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kirwin</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/05/congratulations-senator-franken/#comment-167247</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Kirwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think the man is not sane.

&lt;/em&gt;I hope you&#039;re right. The more Frankens, Blagos, Rangels, Dodd&#039;s in the Democratic fold the easier it will be for us - once we Republicans get our s**t together (which we haven&#039;t started doing yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think the man is not sane.</p>
<p></em>I hope you&#8217;re right. The more Frankens, Blagos, Rangels, Dodd&#8217;s in the Democratic fold the easier it will be for us &#8211; once we Republicans get our s**t together (which we haven&#8217;t started doing yet).</p>
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