Zombie’s got another memorable photo essay.
As usual, protests against the like of Hezbullah and Hamas are not welcome at these “anti-war” events.
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Zombie’s got another memorable photo essay.
As usual, protests against the like of Hezbullah and Hamas are not welcome at these “anti-war” events.
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There is no easy solution for a process which I have been viewing officially since 1954 when I took my first collegiate course in political science. They gave us a big book that included discussions of Trans-Jordan, the loud publically broadcasts of mullahs from mosques in major cities of the UAR, Cairo, Amman, and the importance of gun-boat diplomacy, etc…
Kill the Jews was/is the basic theme of the mosque loudspeakers.
The future King Hussein was a swashbuckling young man driving high speed Masseratis and Jaguars across the desert, not to mention his skills with fighter aircraft at US training bases or his education in british university.
Oddly enough, King Hussein supported driving a wedge through the West bank that would deliver Isreal into the sea. Oops, the UAR got it handed to them in 1967, somewhere in there.
Then, the world went through the Arafat years where millions of US dollars ended up in his bank accounts.
Then, the Israeli’s created/supported Hamas to counter Arafat. And that didn’t work out too good either. And then they killed Anwar Sadat, a man of genuine peace. His big legacy is that Cairo pilgrims now go not to his funereal place but to that of great hero –Gamal Abdel Nasser —one of the original anti-jew guys.
So I’m looking at this from an over fifty year vision of TV, newsmedia and radio reports.
So I ask myself, what should my thinking be regarding the SF/California/San Jose Gaza protests ?
That’s the question.
Pending further information this is my answer.
The people in San Jose have the right to protest for all they wish, primarily, because the Isreali jewish guys that were in charge, told all the palestines guys to leave because there’s a war going on and after it they could all come back (after the war of 1967) and reclaim their properties. That never happened.
Strangely, an Israeli/jewish protest group in San Jose did make a public presentment which of course cannot currently be found on Google
I’m not so sure that the San Jose Palestinians really need to bring up Hamas. The palestinians in Gaza really have their plate quite full just making it through the day.
Its rather difficult to condense 54 years of mid-east politics in such a short comment but I am trying my best, if’n you know what I mean.
the essay is great and all, but i don’t get his insistence that there can be no middleground. Â essentially that one must choose to be an extremist partisan for one side or the other, and we better make up our minds. Â although i suppose one might make the case that for the narrow case of the current gaza conflict that might be true while for the broader issue it is false, but even then i don’t know. Â and that didn’t seem to be the case he was making.
The only case he’s making is what the "peace" protestors are really all about. Do you need any middle ground?
well he clearly acknowledges that there are some people who really are dedicated to peace present at the rally. Â but the most charitable characterization he seems willing to extend to them is that they aren’t thinking things through carefully enough. Â that there can’t be legitimate concerns about israel’s past, or about the current hostilities in gaza. Â that one can’t reasonably disagree with both hamas/hezbullah and israel at the same time.
I don’t think he’s saying that exactly. I find nowhere the sentiment that disagreement with Israel in any general sense in impermissible. Just that disagreement with Israel in fighting terrorists in this specific instance is to support terrorism.
isn’t it possible to support israel’s right to fight terrorists, support its right to exist, disagree with hama/hezbullah, stand opposed to terrorism, and yet still disagree with israel’s handling of the gaza conflict, or even more narrowly wish for an end to hostilities or even question whether the invasion of gaza is in any way acheiving israel’s security objectives? zombie seems to be suggesting that to do so is to ipso facto support terrorism, even if you tell yourself you don’t. that seems to me an extreme claim.
Of course, Zach. Now, what does any of that have to do with the people who typify these "peace" protests, and educating people about what they really stand for?
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