Comments on: New York Times AIDS Denialism On Dead Orphans Reaches New Lows http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/ Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:50:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tramadol. http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168933 Tramadol. Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:06:06 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168933 <strong>Tramadol use in canines....</strong> Tramadol with saturday delivery. Tramadol withdraw. Tramadol. Medlineplus drug information tramadol and. Buy cheap tramadol mg tablets only in us online. 100 tramadol. Side effects tramadol.... Tramadol use in canines….

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]]> By: Celia Farber http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168283 Celia Farber Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168283 Mc Kiernan,<div></div><div>Sure. I was referring to street protests, outside the various institutions who are culpable in this. </div> Mc Kiernan,
Sure. I was referring to street protests, outside the various institutions who are culpable in this. 
]]> By: Mc Kiernan http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168270 Mc Kiernan Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:33:26 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168270 Excuse me, The question is directed to Celia. We patiently await HER reply. Thank you Excuse me,

The question is directed to Celia. We patiently await HER reply.

Thank you

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168268 Dean Esmay Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:04:22 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168268 All you have to do is read the linked article. Yeesh. Couldn't be bothered? All you have to do is read the linked article. Yeesh. Couldn’t be bothered?

]]> By: Mc Kiernan http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168266 Mc Kiernan Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:01:38 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168266 Excuse me: Perhaps, some have misread my comment. Kindly read: (What precisely was cryptic about asking a question ?) <em><strong>Word on the street here</strong> in New York is that the African American community and Parents Rights Groups, as well as groups fighting against human experimentation are going to be taking this one to the streets.</em> Can you kindly tell us just what that is supposed to denote ? It seems that bridge hasn't quite been crossed just yet. Excuse me:

Perhaps, some have misread my comment.

Kindly read:

(What precisely was cryptic about asking a question ?)

Word on the street here in New York is that the African American community and Parents Rights Groups, as well as groups fighting against human experimentation are going to be taking this one to the streets.

Can you kindly tell us just what that is supposed to denote ?

It seems that bridge hasn’t quite been crossed just yet.

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168261 Dean Esmay Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:15:58 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168261 McKiernan is always cryptic. Always. And is usually quite antagonistic when he does it. I've learned to just chuckle. It's kinda fun once you get used to his ways. Dead kids don't matter. Transparency of data don't matter. I give McKiernan credit for one thing though: he didn't actually say we believed in a giant "conspiracy" that had "the entire medical industry" and "all of science" in "collusion." I guess he's tired of those lies too. So all he's got left is to point to a 500+ page report and suggest that somehow, in some way, Mr. Scheff must have reported something wrong. Never mind what, that's not important. I'm past being angry. I'm just tired, and wondering how much longer this charade is going to go on. Seriously, don't try to use logic on the man. If you can find anyone on this blog who has EVER succeeded with that, I will reward you handsomly. McKiernan is always cryptic. Always. And is usually quite antagonistic when he does it.

I’ve learned to just chuckle. It’s kinda fun once you get used to his ways.

Dead kids don’t matter. Transparency of data don’t matter.

I give McKiernan credit for one thing though: he didn’t actually say we believed in a giant "conspiracy" that had "the entire medical industry" and "all of science" in “collusion.” I guess he’s tired of those lies too. So all he’s got left is to point to a 500+ page report and suggest that somehow, in some way, Mr. Scheff must have reported something wrong. Never mind what, that’s not important.

I’m past being angry. I’m just tired, and wondering how much longer this charade is going to go on.

Seriously, don’t try to use logic on the man. If you can find anyone on this blog who has EVER succeeded with that, I will reward you handsomly.

]]> By: Celia Farber http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168260 Celia Farber Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:07:17 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168260 McKiernan,<div></div><div>Stop being cryptic. What do you mean to say, exactly? What was Liam biased about and what did you find that was reassuring in the 508 page report?</div><div></div><div>Vera Sharav at (Alliance For Human Research protections) AHRP.org came to exactly the same conclusions that Liam did.</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic"></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">What do you mean</span> "tempered to truth?" </div><div></div><div>Please, please spill the beans, every last one, that will help spell out the difference between what Liam Scheff, Vera Sharav, myself and countless others have fumingly gleaned from reading this 508 page three million dollar whitewash, and what you have gleaned that makes you sleep so much better. </div><div></div><div>Three million dollars, and the Department Of Health did NOT turn over any of the children's medical records, so it is known how many died at ICC (80, before, and after the trials) and in the absence of medical records it is magically concluded that NOT ONE child died from any of the black box AIDS drugs, which NYT manages to transmute into NO dead children...and yet it is LIAM, who you find to be in error?</div><div></div><div>Explain please. Details please. What do you <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline">mean?</span></span></div> McKiernan,
Stop being cryptic. What do you mean to say, exactly? What was Liam biased about and what did you find that was reassuring in the 508 page report?
Vera Sharav at (Alliance For Human Research protections) AHRP.org came to exactly the same conclusions that Liam did.
What do you mean "tempered to truth?"

Please, please spill the beans, every last one, that will help spell out the difference between what Liam Scheff, Vera Sharav, myself and countless others have fumingly gleaned from reading this 508 page three million dollar whitewash, and what you have gleaned that makes you sleep so much better. 
Three million dollars, and the Department Of Health did NOT turn over any of the children’s medical records, so it is known how many died at ICC (80, before, and after the trials) and in the absence of medical records it is magically concluded that NOT ONE child died from any of the black box AIDS drugs, which NYT manages to transmute into NO dead children…and yet it is LIAM, who you find to be in error?
Explain please. Details please. What do you mean?
]]> By: willem http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168259 willem Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:06:44 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168259 It's time for a Federal Grand Jury. This recent outrage may be just the spark to free our oft-forgotten Fourth Branch of Government so it may be set loose upon the other three to hunt down the sycophants stained by the blood of these innocents. Let no stone go unturned; no peer-to-peer network go unchallenged. Let the light of RICO shine down upon them all. If there is to be Justice, let there be a Federal Grand Jury set to the task. Let that be the mantra from here on out. In the matter of AIDS, Inc., the time for a Federal Grand Jury has come. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/scotus-on-the-unique-power-of-grand-jurors/ It’s time for a Federal Grand Jury. This recent outrage may be just the spark to free our oft-forgotten Fourth Branch of Government so it may be set loose upon the other three to hunt down the sycophants stained by the blood of these innocents. Let no stone go unturned; no peer-to-peer network go unchallenged. Let the light of RICO shine down upon them all. If there is to be Justice, let there be a Federal Grand Jury set to the task. Let that be the mantra from here on out. In the matter of AIDS, Inc., the time for a Federal Grand Jury has come.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/scotus-on-the-unique-power-of-grand-jurors/

]]> By: Mc Kiernan http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168254 Mc Kiernan Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:51:40 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168254 <em><strong>Word on the street here</strong> in New York is that the African American community and Parents Rights Groups, as well as groups fighting against human experimentation are going to be taking this one to the streets. </em>Can you kindly tell us just what that is supposed to denote ? The report was released on January 28, this year and already the street people have the bad news. By the way, Liam's 2458 subjective/biased word spasm could possibly be tempered to truth by reading the Full Report. It's only 508 pages and about 155,000 words which L. Scheff appears to have condensed rather dramatically. <a href="http://www.vera.org/publication_pdf/clinicaltrials-appendix.pdf" rel="nofollow">THE EXPERIENCES OF NEW YORK CITY</a> <a href="http://www.vera.org/publication_pdf/clinicaltrials-appendix.pdf" rel="nofollow">FOSTER CHILDREN IN HIV/AIDS</a> <a href="http://www.vera.org/publication_pdf/clinicaltrials-appendix.pdf" rel="nofollow">CLINICAL TRIALS</a> Its always good to have ALL the facts, isn't it. Word on the street here in New York is that the African American community and Parents Rights Groups, as well as groups fighting against human experimentation are going to be taking this one to the streets.

Can you kindly tell us just what that is supposed to denote ?

The report was released on January 28, this year and already the street people have the bad news.

By the way, Liam’s 2458 subjective/biased word spasm could possibly be tempered to truth by reading the Full Report.

It’s only 508 pages and about 155,000 words which L. Scheff appears to have condensed rather dramatically.

THE EXPERIENCES OF NEW YORK CITY FOSTER CHILDREN IN HIV/AIDS CLINICAL TRIALS

Its always good to have ALL the facts, isn’t it.

]]> By: Dean Esmay http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168243 Dean Esmay Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:43:59 +0000 http://deanesmay.com/2009/01/30/new-york-times-aids-denialism-on-dead-orphans-reaches-new-lows/#comment-168243 (I fixed your link, Celia. Let me know some time if you want to know how to do it, it's easy.) (I fixed your link, Celia. Let me know some time if you want to know how to do it, it’s easy.)

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