saying “everyone knows” is not an argument, to me. if you have specific instances where ACORN has received money that you don’t believe it deserved then let’s talk about those. i admit to not having done an exhaustive search on the subject, but a cursory didn’t turn up anything that tripped my alarms – maybe that’s a fault with my wiring?

OK, you called me out on BS and I’ll have to admit you’re right. I was engaging in a bit too much hyperbole.

However, my concerns are real and I do think our elected representatives act in ways that demonstrate absolute disdain for the average citizen. And Murtha’s airport is something that should shock everyone in this country, and the fact that it doesn’t is not a good sign for our future.

By the way, I didn’t compare the airport to a palace, I compared it to a park, which could easily be justified in the same way as the airport. In fact if I wanted to, I could justify a palace using many of the same arguments.

If ACORN isn’t receiving federal dollars directly from the bailout bill, it’s only because of some disingenuous misdirection. Everyone knows it’s going to ACORN.

sorry but that is the hugest load of BS I have heard you say in quite some time. the difference between the US and a kleptocracy is that if you don’t like where the money is going you can VOTE TO CHANGE IT. or even better RUN FOR OFFICE. if you have a problem with government taxation then i think your SOL.

btw ACORN does not directly receive federal dollars, and Murtha’s airport has little going in its favor but Murtha’s justification is at least plausible – that his district is hard-hit by the decline in american manufacturing, but to encourage business to invest you must first have an infrastructure to support it (i.e. an airport?). don’t agree with it, but at least it can be argued on the merits, fundamentally different than a palace. at least you can use the airport.

Tax money going to ACORN is exactly what you’d see in a banana republic.

I think it is a fair and rational statement to say that a Congress that passes an 800 billion dollar spending bill UNREAD is logically equivalent to a congress that rubber stamps a dictator’s requests.

I’ve said a couple of times that Obama’s policies are turning this nation into a banana republic. I should be fair and say we’ve been heading in that direction a long time.

Both are immoral.

So yes, i do compare “Cap and Trade” to “Bribe the local Mayor to get your energy.” Frankly I don’t see much difference between the two.

Also when the government can suspend legal contractual obligations to pursue an ideology, the same holds true. You may think there’s a difference because you share an ideology with the thieves. If it was Republicans taking your money to build churches, I think you’d have a much different view of things.

if you don’t see a huge difference between the US and a kleptocracy then you’re beyond hope.

The difference is getting smaller every day, however. See also: GM/Chrysler Bond Holders, William Jefferson, Murtha, Abramoff, Madoff, Black Panther Poll Intimidation that is allowed without significant punishment, prosecuting politics of previous administration (okay, to be fair, AT THIS TIME, this is simply PR misdirection, but if they are serious about going after the CIA/former Vice Pres, then we are in banana republic territory)

if you don’t see a huge difference between the US and a kleptocracy then you’re beyond hope.

Yeah, here it just goes to organizations like ACORN or ends up building airports for people like John Murtha.

I see a huge difference. Really I do.