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	<title>Comments on: One Flew Over The Donkey&#8217;s Nest</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that when Truthers believe the government conspired to bring the towers down, they&#039;re believing something truly awful.

Yet I know some Truthers. I disagree with them, but I try not to argue with them.  There&#039;s not much point. It&#039;s like meeting someone who&#039;s a Fundamentalist Christian: you can&#039;t out-argue them on the Bible, because whichever one of the thousand different theologies they embrace, they&#039;ve got it referenced and researched six ways from Sunday &quot;proving&quot; that their interpretation is the only and obvious right one. You can&#039;t win, so why try?

On other matters they are usually decent people who are all right to hang out with. So, live and let live, I say.

So, all that said, am I upset that some middling high appointee somewhere in the Obama administration is a Truther? Not really, unless he&#039;s being put in charge of some job where that would matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that when Truthers believe the government conspired to bring the towers down, they&#8217;re believing something truly awful.</p>
<p>Yet I know some Truthers. I disagree with them, but I try not to argue with them.  There&#8217;s not much point. It&#8217;s like meeting someone who&#8217;s a Fundamentalist Christian: you can&#8217;t out-argue them on the Bible, because whichever one of the thousand different theologies they embrace, they&#8217;ve got it referenced and researched six ways from Sunday &#8220;proving&#8221; that their interpretation is the only and obvious right one. You can&#8217;t win, so why try?</p>
<p>On other matters they are usually decent people who are all right to hang out with. So, live and let live, I say.</p>
<p>So, all that said, am I upset that some middling high appointee somewhere in the Obama administration is a Truther? Not really, unless he&#8217;s being put in charge of some job where that would matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dear, dear friend, who, irritatingly, is a Birther.

Likewise, I have some dear, dear Uncles and Aunts, who hated Bush so much, they became  Truthers.

The Birthers, at least, are focusing on a trivial issue.  We know Obama was BORN. That he was born in Hawaii or somewhere else, doesn&#039;t really bother most sane people. Perhaps, his Birth Certificate is definitely from Hawaii, but identifies his religion as &quot;Islam,&quot; which his critics would use for political ends. Who knows, who cares.

The Truthers, however, are a different kettle of fish. They are accusing various Gov&#039;t officials with &quot;Treason&quot; and&quot;Conspiracy to Commit Murder.&quot;

It is beyond irresponsible to make such charges in such a cavalier fashion, without evidence. 

I saw Michael&#039;s Movie, because I wanted to see the best evidence he could muster.  He failed. It was a piece of dreck, on par with Oliver Stone&#039;s ridiculous &quot;JFK.&quot;

I&#039;m more than willing to listen to engineers talk about how and why the towers toppled, what they expected to happen, what did happen.

But........ I do think Truthers are beyond the pale.

--HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dear, dear friend, who, irritatingly, is a Birther.</p>
<p>Likewise, I have some dear, dear Uncles and Aunts, who hated Bush so much, they became  Truthers.</p>
<p>The Birthers, at least, are focusing on a trivial issue.  We know Obama was BORN. That he was born in Hawaii or somewhere else, doesn&#8217;t really bother most sane people. Perhaps, his Birth Certificate is definitely from Hawaii, but identifies his religion as &#8220;Islam,&#8221; which his critics would use for political ends. Who knows, who cares.</p>
<p>The Truthers, however, are a different kettle of fish. They are accusing various Gov&#8217;t officials with &#8220;Treason&#8221; and&#8221;Conspiracy to Commit Murder.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is beyond irresponsible to make such charges in such a cavalier fashion, without evidence. </p>
<p>I saw Michael&#8217;s Movie, because I wanted to see the best evidence he could muster.  He failed. It was a piece of dreck, on par with Oliver Stone&#8217;s ridiculous &#8220;JFK.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more than willing to listen to engineers talk about how and why the towers toppled, what they expected to happen, what did happen.</p>
<p>But&#8230;&#8230;.. I do think Truthers are beyond the pale.</p>
<p>&#8211;HB</p>
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