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	<title>Comments on: C02 Doesn&#8217;t Cause Warming</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Price</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/08/c02-doesnt-cause-warming/#comment-178704</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s the Ordovician-Silurian ice age, for starters.  CO2 levels were about 4500 PPM then.  It was caused by a continent moving over a pole (hey...).  There&#039;s also the Huronian, which had even higher levels.

Somehow those little facts never made it into Al Gore&#039;s movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s the Ordovician-Silurian ice age, for starters.  CO2 levels were about 4500 PPM then.  It was caused by a continent moving over a pole (hey&#8230;).  There&#8217;s also the Huronian, which had even higher levels.</p>
<p>Somehow those little facts never made it into Al Gore&#8217;s movie.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeca</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know very little about the science underlying this debate, but I am wondering what the data is for the statement:

&lt;i&gt;The Earth has had Ice Ages at CO2 levels ten times higher than today&lt;/i&gt;.

I didn&#039;t see any data to support this in the links. What is the source of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know very little about the science underlying this debate, but I am wondering what the data is for the statement:</p>
<p><i>The Earth has had Ice Ages at CO2 levels ten times higher than today</i>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see any data to support this in the links. What is the source of this?</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/08/c02-doesnt-cause-warming/#comment-178667</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason CO2 was fingered as the AGW Bogeyman is because it was associated with industrial activity, and that alone was all the &quot;scientists&quot; with a political agenda needed to know when they decided to promote AGW as a &quot;crisis.&quot;

I have repeatedly, REPEATEDLY, &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;REPEATEDLY&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; pointed out on this blog and other places that &lt;i&gt;this fundamental assumption in the computer models has never been proven&lt;/i&gt;.

In a nutshell the supposed CO2 link to AGW is quite literally the same kind of hand-waving in a scientific &quot;experiment&quot; that sophomore chemistry students do to make their experimental &quot;results&quot; match the textbook.

I won&#039;t call it a conspiracy because I do believe that a lot of the &quot;consensus&quot; is from good scientists who simply ACCEPT the fraudulent assumptions about CO2, but there MUST be good solid intelligent scientists who UNDERSTAND that CO2 has never been shown to have the ability to warm the atmosphere that AGW proponents claim it does, and who yet go along with it to get grants and not rock the boat.

Those &quot;scientists&quot; are truly proving the warning that great evil can occur when good men sit idly by and allow evil to go unchallenged.

This whole episode will, one day, be taught in classrooms as an example of how good, decent, caring scientists can inadvertently feed a frenzy that can engulf us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason CO2 was fingered as the AGW Bogeyman is because it was associated with industrial activity, and that alone was all the &#8220;scientists&#8221; with a political agenda needed to know when they decided to promote AGW as a &#8220;crisis.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have repeatedly, REPEATEDLY, <i><b>REPEATEDLY</b></i> pointed out on this blog and other places that <i>this fundamental assumption in the computer models has never been proven</i>.</p>
<p>In a nutshell the supposed CO2 link to AGW is quite literally the same kind of hand-waving in a scientific &#8220;experiment&#8221; that sophomore chemistry students do to make their experimental &#8220;results&#8221; match the textbook.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t call it a conspiracy because I do believe that a lot of the &#8220;consensus&#8221; is from good scientists who simply ACCEPT the fraudulent assumptions about CO2, but there MUST be good solid intelligent scientists who UNDERSTAND that CO2 has never been shown to have the ability to warm the atmosphere that AGW proponents claim it does, and who yet go along with it to get grants and not rock the boat.</p>
<p>Those &#8220;scientists&#8221; are truly proving the warning that great evil can occur when good men sit idly by and allow evil to go unchallenged.</p>
<p>This whole episode will, one day, be taught in classrooms as an example of how good, decent, caring scientists can inadvertently feed a frenzy that can engulf us all.</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/08/c02-doesnt-cause-warming/#comment-178665</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, watching this page, the google ad on the side was for CROC, the Carbon Regulatory Offset Committee or something.

&quot;When you think it&#039;s Global Warming, think it&#039;s a CROC. &quot;

Probably the most unfortunate acronym.  Is it a hoax?  Apparently its a Greenpeace thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, watching this page, the google ad on the side was for CROC, the Carbon Regulatory Offset Committee or something.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you think it&#8217;s Global Warming, think it&#8217;s a CROC. &#8221;</p>
<p>Probably the most unfortunate acronym.  Is it a hoax?  Apparently its a Greenpeace thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Price</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/08/c02-doesnt-cause-warming/#comment-178664</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More likely it will either be flushed down the memory hole or claimed to be just around the next corner.

Remember acid rain?  It was going to kill us all by the year 2000.

&lt;i&gt;We have always been at war with Eastasia.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More likely it will either be flushed down the memory hole or claimed to be just around the next corner.</p>
<p>Remember acid rain?  It was going to kill us all by the year 2000.</p>
<p><i>We have always been at war with Eastasia.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tiemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tiemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;re lucky, someday we&#039;ll get to read about this whole episode in a sidebar titled &quot;Correlation Does Not Imply Causation&quot; in Chapter 4 of a sixth grade science book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re lucky, someday we&#8217;ll get to read about this whole episode in a sidebar titled &#8220;Correlation Does Not Imply Causation&#8221; in Chapter 4 of a sixth grade science book.</p>
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