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	<title>Comments on: Jacob Weisberg Loses It</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree. Again if we&#039;re simply talking about independent studies that look at the matter, it does turn out that when you&#039;re talking strictly *news* coverage, Fox News and NPR actually do top the list for being least biased.

On the other hand, I don&#039;t see how anyone can watch the Fox News Channel and fail to notice that most of their time on the air is not devoted to news coverage. It&#039;s just not. Instead their time is overwhelmingly dominated by people like Glenn Beck, Bill O&#039;Reilly, Sean Hannity, and a host of others who *do* have axes to grind and may make a show of trying to be fair but no one can doubt where they&#039;re coming from and &quot;unbiased news coverage&quot; isn&#039;t it. Defenders of Fox News are here relying on those news segments at the top of the hour, every half hour, etc. that go on for five minutes at a time. But then it&#039;s back to another long series of advocacy by the (non-reporter) host. 

&lt;i&gt;Special Report&lt;/i&gt; used to be the best hour of news and analysis on the air. I haven&#039;t seen it since Brit Hume left though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree. Again if we&#8217;re simply talking about independent studies that look at the matter, it does turn out that when you&#8217;re talking strictly *news* coverage, Fox News and NPR actually do top the list for being least biased.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t see how anyone can watch the Fox News Channel and fail to notice that most of their time on the air is not devoted to news coverage. It&#8217;s just not. Instead their time is overwhelmingly dominated by people like Glenn Beck, Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Sean Hannity, and a host of others who *do* have axes to grind and may make a show of trying to be fair but no one can doubt where they&#8217;re coming from and &#8220;unbiased news coverage&#8221; isn&#8217;t it. Defenders of Fox News are here relying on those news segments at the top of the hour, every half hour, etc. that go on for five minutes at a time. But then it&#8217;s back to another long series of advocacy by the (non-reporter) host. </p>
<p><i>Special Report</i> used to be the best hour of news and analysis on the air. I haven&#8217;t seen it since Brit Hume left though.</p>
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		<title>By: Yu-Ain Gonnano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yu-Ain Gonnano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The same, by the way, turns out to be true for… National Public Radio. &lt;/i&gt;

But not ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, NYTimes, LATimes,......

Their bias is in both commentary *and* news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The same, by the way, turns out to be true for… National Public Radio. </i></p>
<p>But not ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, NYTimes, LATimes,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Their bias is in both commentary *and* news.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Esmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Esmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Every actual non-partisan study of the news networks has repeatedly shown that Fox News is more balanced than CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC.&lt;/i&gt;

Er, not quite.

I believe those surveys you&#039;re talking about have been strictly to analyze the NEWS and REPORTING side of Fox News. It excludes all commentary. So if you have Sean Hannity ranting for an hour, with two or three five minute news break interruptions by reporters, they&#039;re only counting those hard news segments.

The same, by the way, turns out to be true for... National Public Radio. When analyzed strictly on news reporting, leaving aside all commentary, NPR is one of the fairest and most balanced. But of course anyone who listens to them knows where their commentators  are coming from: almost invariably from the center-left (and sometimes not even so center).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Every actual non-partisan study of the news networks has repeatedly shown that Fox News is more balanced than CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC.</i></p>
<p>Er, not quite.</p>
<p>I believe those surveys you&#8217;re talking about have been strictly to analyze the NEWS and REPORTING side of Fox News. It excludes all commentary. So if you have Sean Hannity ranting for an hour, with two or three five minute news break interruptions by reporters, they&#8217;re only counting those hard news segments.</p>
<p>The same, by the way, turns out to be true for&#8230; National Public Radio. When analyzed strictly on news reporting, leaving aside all commentary, NPR is one of the fairest and most balanced. But of course anyone who listens to them knows where their commentators  are coming from: almost invariably from the center-left (and sometimes not even so center).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Price</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179071</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J1,

That&#039;s funny, when I wrote this I was all set to caption this with that photo of Blitzer at -4600 points, but I decided people would either confuse Blitzer with Weisberg, or (worse) assume I had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J1,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s funny, when I wrote this I was all set to caption this with that photo of Blitzer at -4600 points, but I decided people would either confuse Blitzer with Weisberg, or (worse) assume I had.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179068</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and another point:

Foxnews is a bit biased BECAUSE of the NY Times&#039; gross slant to the left and dereliction of its duty.

In the dark ages before MTV and the internet, there was the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, and NBC -- and not much else. The NY Times was the king of the pitch -- and they blew it.

--HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and another point:</p>
<p>Foxnews is a bit biased BECAUSE of the NY Times&#8217; gross slant to the left and dereliction of its duty.</p>
<p>In the dark ages before MTV and the internet, there was the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, and NBC &#8212; and not much else. The NY Times was the king of the pitch &#8212; and they blew it.</p>
<p>&#8211;HB</p>
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		<title>By: J1</title>
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		<dc:creator>J1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What&#039;s most distinctive about the American press is not its freedom but its century-old tradition of independence&quot;

I&#039;d say I was surprised a journalist had such a staggering ignorance of history, but I saw Wolf Blitzer (a guy alleged to have a history degree!) on Jeopardy, so I know better.
 
http://gawker.com/5362580/wolf-blitzer-lost-on-jeopardy (you have to see this to believe it - I won&#039;t even try to describe it).

Fox is closer to the political center than any other TV news operation. That&#039;s why their ratings are so high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s most distinctive about the American press is not its freedom but its century-old tradition of independence&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say I was surprised a journalist had such a staggering ignorance of history, but I saw Wolf Blitzer (a guy alleged to have a history degree!) on Jeopardy, so I know better.</p>
<p><a href="http://gawker.com/5362580/wolf-blitzer-lost-on-jeopardy" rel="nofollow">http://gawker.com/5362580/wolf-blitzer-lost-on-jeopardy</a> (you have to see this to believe it &#8211; I won&#8217;t even try to describe it).</p>
<p>Fox is closer to the political center than any other TV news operation. That&#8217;s why their ratings are so high.</p>
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		<title>By: Dishman</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179059</link>
		<dc:creator>Dishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Independence is cooperarting with the White House.

Propaganda is disagreeing.

We have always been at war with East Asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Independence is cooperarting with the White House.</p>
<p>Propaganda is disagreeing.</p>
<p>We have always been at war with East Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Barnes</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179058</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! The expression &quot;cognitive dissonance&quot; comes to mind:

Writing  a long-winded tirade about FoxNews with the take-home message that we should ignore it!

Foxnews is, indeed, biased. But, it is no more biased, than the NY Times.

Them are the facts!

--HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! The expression &#8220;cognitive dissonance&#8221; comes to mind:</p>
<p>Writing  a long-winded tirade about FoxNews with the take-home message that we should ignore it!</p>
<p>Foxnews is, indeed, biased. But, it is no more biased, than the NY Times.</p>
<p>Them are the facts!</p>
<p>&#8211;HB</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicConservative</title>
		<link>http://deanesmay.com/2009/10/17/jacob-weisberg-loses-it/#comment-179056</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I&#039;ll repeat myself again. The surest sign of the zealous ideologue is their complete inability to recognize their own manifest irony.

This is so typical of the left that it&#039;s hardly newsworthy.

Every actual non-partisan study of the news networks has repeatedly shown that Fox News is more balanced than CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC. And MSNBC is so overtly partisan that it&#039;s laughable to even refer to them as a news network.

All of them are biased. Fox is biased to the right, but not nearly as much as the other mainstream media outlets are biased to the left.

The problem is that when you and everyone you know have the identical bias, you simply can&#039;t see the bias. It&#039;s invisible to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;ll repeat myself again. The surest sign of the zealous ideologue is their complete inability to recognize their own manifest irony.</p>
<p>This is so typical of the left that it&#8217;s hardly newsworthy.</p>
<p>Every actual non-partisan study of the news networks has repeatedly shown that Fox News is more balanced than CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC. And MSNBC is so overtly partisan that it&#8217;s laughable to even refer to them as a news network.</p>
<p>All of them are biased. Fox is biased to the right, but not nearly as much as the other mainstream media outlets are biased to the left.</p>
<p>The problem is that when you and everyone you know have the identical bias, you simply can&#8217;t see the bias. It&#8217;s invisible to you.</p>
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