How is Windows 7 not like Vista?
I’m running Windows 7 Ultimate now. I had Windows Vista Ultimate. I’m not really seeing a difference.
Please keep in mind I didn’t have a problem with Vista. Ever. I never saw what people were complaining about.
So, what am I missing?
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Paying for it.
Helpful as ever.
Here are some things I liked.
Plus just the fact that it ran well on a 2003 vintage machine. Vista refused to install on that machine.
Plus the desktop search works well, for the first time ever in my opinion.
But my general response was that there were no big differences, just a lot of little differences that snuck up on me, made me comfortable, and made me miss them when I switched back to my work machine.
Chill. It was humor, Kevin.
Seriously I learned to try not to go for every MS or Firefox upgrade. I usually find out later, I lost something I once had. Even happened in going from Picasa to Picasa 3.
Update: Sorry I don’t know how to do smilie faces.
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McK,
It’s hard to tell with you.
Personally, as someone who worked with Vista Ultimate as well, and now Windows 7 ultimate (Both 64 bit versions), I’ve found 7 to be a lot more responsive, better organized. As others mentioned, its not supposed to be a huge change, rather, lots of small changes that make things much more user friendly, which for the most part I like. (The parts that I don’t tend to like are the ones that make the OS more Mac-like in attitude.)
Sounds like a way of saying “this one’s not a beta.”
Here I am still using Windows XP on this machine and Windows 2003 Server on two of my business computers.
Am I supposed to be missing something that I don’t know about? Other than the pain in the neck involved in getting new software to run as good as the bad old Microsoft crap that I had at least grown used to over the years?
Kevin, I think I know when McK is pulling your leg, as opposed to going for your throat. To which you have provoked him on more than one occasion.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Arnold,
What you’re missing is the future. At some point, programmers and software companies are going to stop supporting XP. You’ll be able to do everything you can do now, but nothing much new. If what you’re doing now is all you need to do, then you’re missing nothing.
Just one example of a programmer who’s abandoning XP: myself. I’ll work on XP if that’s what the customer pays for; but my best new work uses features that just aren’t supported on XP: multitouch input and speech recognition. Yes, yes, yes, you can find niche tools for these; but I’m too busy to learn niche tools. I’m going to learn the mass market tools that Microsoft built into Windows 7. That makes my potential market hundreds of millions. None of those niche tools offer me a potential market that large.
But do you need multitouch? Do you need speech recognition? Those are questions I can’t answer for you. The same for a lot of other new features in Win 7, including under-the-hood features like better support for multi-core CPUs and better support for virtual machines. You don’t have them now, and you’re not missing them. So maybe you don’t need them.
But maybe you do, and don’t know it. Maybe these would save you time and work. Or maybe they’ll save your competitors time and work, making them more competitive.
There’s really no right answer to this question. I know what my answer is, but it’s based on my reasons and my circumstances. Yours can’t possibly be the same.
MLS,
My uses for computers, aside from email and internet, more or less strictly involve meat-and-potato type data processing. One part of my business involves mailing and contact lists, which I compile, combine, refine, de-duplicate, update and sell to customer accounts. Another part of my business is focused on NCOAlink + ANKlink (“Addressee Not Known”) mailing list update services per USPS standards, again for commercial accounts.
Multitouch? Speech recognition? I’m sure these will have significant use in laboratories and specialized studios. But none of that has any relationship to the business from which I have earned a living for more than 27 years, and which I expect to continue until I turn it over to my wife and possibly one of my children when the time comes.
It’s an honest day’s work, in any case, and has specialized value to those who need niche market services such as mine.
But if I must invest in Win 7 so that I can interchange files with other businesses, that is another matter. Already I have discovered that people are trying to send me data files from the 1997 versions of MS Access and MS Excel, which I cannot read with my versions of the same programs in MS Office. For that alone, I must shortly to the current version of MS Office. But I am not anxious to change out my MS 2003 Server operating system, which introduces numerous additional complexities.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
I have the option of loading 7, never used Vista (the wife has it on her laptop). I do not like Vista, it is different enough form teh XP I use on my laptop & desktop that I have trouble figuring out her problems (although similar enough that I feel like I shouldn’t). I was hoping for some kind of technical, esthetic, practical, or other analysis in this thread to make a case but am not seeing it.
Arnold,
When one engages in a pattern of behavior, as McK has, since I’ve been here, constantly being the aggressor, I cease caring how I am perceived by them until I see a concerted effort by that individual to address that behavior.
Unless you believe posts made by me specifically target McK, I find your observation that I provoke him to be lacking merit.
And while you may be able to know when he is “pulling my leg” vs. “going for my throat” I take this point of view: Once a dog goes for your throat you don’t assume the next encounter will be any better unless you’re not particularly attached to that part of your body.
If McK wishes I would take a less defensive stance with him he need only address his behavior toward me which, to this day, has been largely insulting, aggressive, and childish.
Arnold, I agree. To my knowledge McK has yet to threaten anyone else at DW with physical violence.
I get it, Aziz. You’re still pissed at me so you’re going to take any side you can against me. I apologized – publicly – but I’m not going to crawl over broken glass to seek your forgiveness.
I’m done with this between us. Accept my apology or not, I’m moving on.
And if you continue to make comments like this in my threads I will delete them.
Sheesh – these forums get serious quick.
I installed the Windows 7, 64 bit beta on my custom built PC back in May. I liked it, but I’m a geek. I had moved to it from Vista 64 bit. Both operating systems worked flawlessly, I might add. I had been running Vista for over a year when I upgraded, and I had only one crash in that entire time – and that was caused by a not-quite-ready-for-prime-time device driver.
I have now installed the released version Windows 7 pro, and it is quite a bit faster on my machine – An Intel quad 64, 3.2ghz with 8 gigs of ram and an Nvidia 7900GT GPU.
So far, I’m loving it. Device drivers were a problem in the very beginning, but not anymore – and I’ve got some pretty exotic hardware. (…and believe it or not, the driver that was toughest to find was for a HP laserjet 1300 printer.)
As an engineer, my philosophy tends toward “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. So if you have no pressing need to upgrade, then don’t – especially for a PC that is mission critical. But the geek in me wants to fiddle with things.
I am also a photographer. And the 64 bit version of Photoshop CS4 flies on this machine.
Greenwell,
I hate you and you life and your dog, sir. If you do not own a dog let me know and I shall obtain one for you and once it is in your possession I will begin to hate it promptly.
Your computer puts my penis to shame.
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