Medicare Boosts Small Business

Well it does according to the RAND corporation, anyway, which is one of many reasons why Obamacare likely will as well. Obamacare being the #2 reason why I voted for Obama, and am glad he survived office (although Obamacare would have gone on without him, despite Romney’s promises to the contrary).

This country needs to break the backs of the large corporations that the government created and has foisted upon us and which continue to erode our most basic freedoms on a steady basis. One of those reasons is the way the market was rigged to make decent health care unaffordable for most middle and lower income people seeking to start their own businesses. As Obamacare continues to expand (thank God thank God!) it will of course be modified to fix some of its problems, and now with the Tea Partiers just having been told by voters across the country to get out of Washington and go home, Republicans seem to have gotten the message that they need to work with the President and not consistently oppose everything he does (like, y’know, Obamacare, which was mostly their design in the first place until he said “yeah OK let’s do that”).

I have some crybaby right wing YouTuber (Bernard Chafin) throwing a tantrum because he’s butthurt that his precious Tea Party movement tried to sell its message to voters this year and lost in the marketplace of ideas: voters listened to the sales pitch and said “no thank you.” Now Chafin claims no one who voted for Obama could be anything other than a “feminist” (what exactly that word means being yet to be determined with any precision) and as such wants people to boycott A Voice for Men because I’m Managing Editor there. Ah, those Tea Partiers, such thoughtful folks that when they lose an election, they blame everybody but themselves.

I have friends who are in the Tea Party, and I hope they don’t take this personally, but the marketplace of ideas looked and what you had to offer, turned up its nose, and said “no thanks.” Blaming me for it isn’t going to help you. Time to consider that maybe you’re selling an old, out of date product that is long past its “sell by” date and does not appeal to most people just because YOU like it.

So maybe, you could re-examine your ideas with some consideration of the slight possibility, as nutty as it might seem, that you might somewhere in some way be wrong in some fashion, somehow.

Or maybe, you know, start a secession movement. Yeah, good luck with that. (Mutters some more about butthurt unAmerican unpatriotic crybaby Fair Weather Patriots who only love their country when they get their way…)

  • Dishman

    I do not find this to be motivational.

  • Elizabeth Reid

    In my experience, this kind of rejection by the electorate does not prompt as much soul-searching as it should. I’ve seen this happen to both my Democratic and Republican friends over the years, and the common response seems to be to assume that the electorate WOULD have chosen your ideas (because they’re RIGHT) but got tricked in some way. So, they got misled by the Lamestream Media or the other side’s talking points/propaganda machine, or got distracted by minor-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things but emotionally compelling issues, or whatever. It’s rarely interpreted as an actual rejection of any part of one’s own side’s core philosophy.

  • Ruth H

    Is this a rant for the healthcare bill or against the tea party?
    This is in answer to the healthcare part of it. If it were only a healthcare bill that would be one thing. It is not, it is many liberal ideas rolled into on GIANT package.
    1. The country doesn’t need to break the back of anything. That is not the point of the national government, building them up as in Solyndra is not the point either.
    2. Tell me how taxing medical devices is going to help break anyone but the person who needs to use those devices? That would be “my ox is gored on this one.” Many people in my family have, and others have used, such devices. How is a tax going to do anything but make them less available? Figure it out and let me know.
    3. This is not really Obamacare. This package has been waiting in the background since Hillary Care. Not necessarily in the same form and probably not nearly so many pages, but the idea is the the socialist health system ideal, and they were ready and waiting and still had to pay off states with waivers to get it passed. Free and equal, definitely NOT! Full of every liberals wants and wishes, supposedly, but I really doubt it.

  • Scott

    and now with the Tea Partiers just having been told by voters across the country to get out of Washington and go home, Republicans seem to have gotten the message that they need to work with the President and not consistently oppose everything he does (like, y’know, Obamacare, which was mostly their design in the first place until he said “yeah OK let’s do that”).

    Uh, no, this was a subdued status quo election. Status quo because the GOP held onto the House, the Dems held onto the Senate and the Presidencey. Subdued because some lost their seats and Obama lost millions of votes and points in his margin from 2008.

    And you State Worshipers thinking that the voters told the Tea Party “across the country to get out of Washington and go home” is merely wishful thinking. Romney didn’t run a Tea Party Campaign, he pretty much ran as a hopeful moderate to Obama’s hateful, fear-mongering statism. But, I guess a majority of the voters were myopic and were swayed by the promise of “free” government goodies.

    Boehner is now playing it smart. He’s standing there saying “OK, Mr President, please lead. We’re waiting” knowing Obama has never been able to lead and once he’s shown that he can’t lead or compromise Obama is going to lose a lot of public support.

    But it’s scary that you State Worshippers think you’ve “won” and should get “your way”. What, Trillion-dollar deficits out farther than the eye can see isn’t enough for you? Trillions in debt every year, lowered credit rating, higher unemployment and a looming national bankruptcy is OK as long as you get to “stick it to the rich”?

    Pathetic.

  • http://madisonforum.net/ Sandi

    Medicare boosts small business has got to be the biggest laugh I have had in a week. Pfft!

    Obama won the election because he promised “stuff.” Period.

    The progressives don’t give a hoot about the deficit. They don’t have sense enough to know that the golden goose can only shit so many golden eggs, and then they die.

  • BobCutlass

    A few points -

    Obamacare remains unpopular. So maybe the election was about other issues? I hope I am not grasping at straws here.

    It is poorly written and full of perverse incentives. Probably of necessity just to get it passed, I suppose. Seriously, compare it to the health systems of Europe or the Anglosphere.

    You are excited about getting the “free” healthcare? I could see how that would be appealing. But how does this Obama stuff end? Rationing? Chronic high unemployment? Sovereign debt crisis a la Argentina? Haven’t we seen this unfold before?

    Will we go into a soft decline like Europe or something more like Cambodia, or Zimbabwe? Are we as organized and sensible as Germans or British people?

    You are happy about Obama’s reelection. You think his economic policies will lead to prosperity here. Quick proposal for you Dean. Let’s have a wager. African Americans. Measure their economic well-being after eight years of Obama. Like unemployment, median income, anything, really. Compare it to any point during the Bush administration. I will gladly pay you $20 if African Americans are better off under Obama. If they are worse off, you don’t have to pay me. Do you know why? Because I will feel “butt-hurt” over the plight of African Americans (and other Americans) under Obama, and I won’t care about the $20.

    Yes, I do feel “butt-hurt” about the waste of human potential, and the eclipse of the human spirit, under socialist policies. Like the spoiled little baby that I am.

    I feel disgusting being so sarcastic. I hope my point is coming across. Should I have adopted a more neutral tone? Should you have?

    If you don’t like that wager, maybe we could have a bet about Obama getting a budget passed. Just a simple budget, mainstay of the normal functioning of government. Because he is such a serious national leader and all.

    I agree with Ruth. We shouldn’t “break the back” of corporations. What is the deal with this rhetoric?

    Dean, I have lurked here for ages, this is my first comment. I just have to say I don’t understand you with the Obama thing.

  • Jolly_Mcfats

    I’m just posting to let you know that you aren’t the only one who voted for Obama and considers themselves a MRA. Most people have a number of different issues that are important to them, and a number of mine favored Obama.

    I had no idea what Romney actually stood for (aside from fighting any taxes on capital gains), his platform changed with the wind, and while both candidates lied entirely too much for my taste, Romney did it more.

    Also: every election I have ever seen in my lifetime has been won by a candidate promising “stuff” to someone. Obama isn’t the exception to the rule. Except that historically, it has been the wealthy elite in america that seek to turn government surplus into personal gain rather than paying down our debt. This “Obama is giving stuff to buy votes” seems to me to be just a variation of the Tytler Calumny (http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-tytler-insult-is-democracy-hopeless.html)

  • http://www.jaeddy.com John Eddy

    Math says this will not end well. It is the cross we shall all be nailed to.

    Enjoy it for now.

  • Scott

    One more thing,

    Or maybe, you know, start a secession movement. Yeah, good luck with that. (Mutters some more about butthurt unAmerican unpatriotic crybaby Fair Weather Patriots who only love their country when they get their way…)

    This happens every time we have a reelection. Back in 2004 the left were pretty explicit about wanting to succeed themselves. Look at Michael Moore and a lot of celebrities said about it. Sure it’s annoying, but it’s post-election disappointment.

    Personally I prefer Glenn Reynolds suggestion: push Federalism. With Federalism you really wouldn’t need to worry too much about who’s occupying the White House. And with states voting against the implementation of Obamacare and others legalizing Marijuana it seems Federalism is on the march.

  • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

    Obamacare is only unpopular by its name. If you actually poll on its provisions, most of them are broadly popular.

    It was of course based on conservative and Republican proposals. Republicans passed on any chance to change it. They have a chance now.

    I do not believe we will be getting “free” health care. I never did.

    Corporations need their backs broken in the power they wield over the economy and our everyday lives and the stranglehold they have on the free market. Obama won’t be doing that, but neither will Romney… but in any case, the “Free Marketeers” who do not recognize the threat they are just plain give me the willies. Corporations are useful entities created and sustained by the state, they are not a natural part of the free market. We allow them because we calculate that it is in the general welfare that we tolerate them: but it’s toleration, not an inherent right to exist.

    Since there was no reason, at all, to believe a Romney administration would do anything to reach out to help struggling men and boys, I had to vote on other issues. I voted because I support Obamacare (even while recognizing it is flawed and will need changing) and frankly because he didn’t fuck up Afghanistan or Iraq and has helped squelch the “anti-war” wing of his party.

    And I did not want the “anti-government” people encouraged because I find their bumper sticker philosophy on government repellant. Sorry, but I do. It lacks substance; the whole notion that “smaller government” means “less power for the powerful” is nonsensical in my view.

    And 10 out of 12 Tea Party candidates who were sent to Congress in 2010 just got sent home. Make of it what you will. My recommendation is that you guys regroup and think harder about a message that sells to a larger swath of the population. You guys effectively prevented Mitt Romney from being the real Mitt, he had to contort himself into a knot just to get the nomination. Well he did it, and you lost. What’s the choice? Double down and find an more conservative candidate? Or consider the notion that your message isn’t selling? This is up to you. My recommendation is that you re-examine the product you’re selling. It may hurt for me to tell you that, but it’s what I’m telling you. Take it for whatever it’s worth.

    This posting was in part a response to a Tea Party Conservative who’s been vocally attacking me on YouTube. Poor baby. I tried being nice and even offered to work with him on issues where we agree, but he just got more nasty. Fuck him. Although the offer to work together stands if he ever grows up and stops calling everyone who disagrees with him a Communist.

  • http://madisonforum.net/ Sandi

    Obamacare is only unpopular by its name. If you actually poll on its provisions, most of them are broadly popular.

    Apples and oranges.

    Lets say I offer you a truckload of total junk and garbage from my garage, that contains a few nice treasures. However the only way I will give it to you is to backup in your front yard and dump a few tons of garbage/junk, neither you nor anyone else is going to want it, in spite of the nice popular items.

  • Scott

    It was of course based on conservative and Republican proposals.

    This is, of course, a “fluff” argument. It’s trying to justify current policy based on what very few conservatives (who aren’t very conservative) decades ago thought before they figured out it was a bad, very bad idea. By that logic, the Democrats, decades ago, supported slavery! The Democrats, decades ago, supported Jim Crow laws. So, if someone wants to throw African-Americans back in chains they can just say “Hey, it was a Democrat idea!”