• Scott

    Give him a few years. Back when I was his age I was tolerant and forgiving of lefties like her. Unfortunately, in my life Lefties have proven beyond all doubt that they are hateful, angry, self-righteous, ugly fascist bullies.

    So she’s just a typical leftie.

  • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

    [sigh] Somehow I manage to maintain lefty and righty friends, and you both talk exactly the same about each other. I despair for the future sometimes, but I try to be optimistic and assume it’s just always been this way.

  • Elizabeth Reid

    Yeah, I know people on both (all?) ends of the political spectrum who talk the way Scott is talking. It makes me crazy. Half the country votes Republican, half the country votes Democrat, give or take a little. Who can really walk around thinking HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY, this country that they all say they love, are stupid, gullible, mendacious, full of hate, immoral, hypocritical, or literally evil? Our friends tend to share our political beliefs, but even so, who doesn’t have at least one friend who is differently politically aligned? Not to mention all of the good and decent co-workers, relatives, friendly acquaintances, etc.? I’m a liberal atheist who voted for Obama. One of the kindest and most hardworking people I know is a deeply religious man who voted for Romney. We believe different things about the world and those different beliefs lead to different choices, but I know neither of us is an evil person or a moron. There are things about the way humans are made that allows us to look at the same set of facts and come to radically different conclusions. You can see that as a feature or a bug, but it’s just the way it is. If you reduce that fascinating process to ‘half of America is stupid/evil’, you’re really missing out.

  • 22to28

    Thanks for linking to my blog, Dean. It is much appreciated and I’ve enjoyed the traffic you’ve sent my way.

    I was glad to find your site as well. For some reason I had never come across it before, but when I read your page “Are You A Liberal?” it struck me as the most reasonable thing that I’ve read online in a very long time.

    Thanks for your contribution to the Manosphere.

  • Dishman

    I used to be that kind of forgiving.

    You might think that one overt attempt on my life would have been enough to change my attitude.

    It wasn’t.

    I’m a slow learner.

    I make a good show of being nuts. Maybe I really am. I’ll leave that as an exercise to the reader.

    There is, however, a real mental illness out there. I can’t really name it. Sometimes it shows up as ‘Borderline Personality Disorder’, but that doesn’t fully capture it.

    It looks like a disease of the mind. As best I can tell, forgiveness feeds it. That’s perhaps its defining characteristic.

    I can’t even tell you with certainty that it hasn’t touched me.

  • Scott

    Dean,

    You’re not a leftie. In fact, I seriously doubt that more than 26% of the country is truly leftie. One test is whether you’re a democrat who believes Bush was “behind” 9/11 as 2/3′s of Democrats did during 2001-2009. If you do, you’re a leftie.

    Anyhow, the girl in the video was: 1) a true-blue leftie and 2) a hateful fascist (you yourself used “stalinist thug” but I like to throw the “fascist” term back in leftie faces since part of their bullying involved calling me a “fascist” when they learned I wasn’t for “free” healthcare and affirmative action.)

  • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

    22to28: Welcome! And good on you. I hope this helps you move on from some shit emotionally.

    Dishman:

    There is, however, a real mental illness out there. I can’t really name it. Sometimes it shows up as ‘Borderline Personality Disorder’, but that doesn’t fully capture it.

    It looks like a disease of the mind. As best I can tell, forgiveness feeds it. That’s perhaps its defining characteristic.

    You make a good point. It took me a long time to learn this myself, and it caused me much grief and pain. The rule I try to remember is “forgive does not mean forget” and furthermore, it does not mean “hug the wolverine that tried to gut you.”

    There are also some people you should never, ever apologize to, because it’s blood in the water for them. I absolutely did learn that the hard way.

    Typhon Blue once said something about being angry with scorpions for being scorpions. It’s important to recognize that kind of human. That said, holding a grudge against the scorpion for being a scorpion is rather wasted energy.

    I guess the trick is in knowing when your attempt at forgiveness is likely to harm you or not, and what that risk is.

    Scott: I sympathize since there are many deranged hateful leftists, but since I’m busy being gutted by deranged rightists over on YouTube at the moment who are questioning my intellectual and moral purity on these exact same issues at the moment (talk about whiplash) I’m having what you might call a schizoid reaction. I may have to post that video + a transcript here. ;-)